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Pelikan M215 Or Diplomat Excellence A?

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#1 PranitSingh

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Posted 24 August 2017 - 12:21

Hey there, I'm going to buy a Lamy 2000 most probably (http://www.fountainp...-2#entry3906816) and I have some extra money remaining with me. So I was wondering which pen should I get, the Pelikan M215 lozenge or the Diplomat Excellence A (steel nib). Both of them are used pens and both are in Medium nib. I am getting M215 for $61 (INR.4000) and Diplomat for $38 (INR.2500). Which one of them would have a smoother writing experience for everyday use?

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Posted 24 August 2017 - 13:38

I have the Diplomat Excellence A. it has a very good nib, and is very well made - you will get a smooth writing experience out of it, but it is also a heavier pen than most. I have no complaints with mine. I've had it for two years and its been no trouble and it seems to play well with most inks.   



#3 KellyMcJ

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Posted 24 August 2017 - 13:49

Do you have the opportunity to test them in person? Since they're used, it might be hard for anyone to say which will be smoother- they could have been tuned by a prior owner or just worn smoother etc.



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Posted 24 August 2017 - 13:52

Do you have the opportunity to test them in person? Since they're used, it might be hard for anyone to say which will be smoother- they could have been tuned by a prior owner or just worn smoother etc.


I could try out the M215 because it's being sold by a collector but I can't try out the Diplomat as it was found in a storage auction that was left behind by some Japanese immigrant who has shifted somewhere and left behind the pen.

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Posted 24 August 2017 - 14:52

Wow those are great prices! The losenge M215 is relatively rare, and I suspect if you resold it you should be able to easily recoup your costs barring some problems with it. I only have the M215 Rings in EF and it's a good writer - I love the M200 nibs - (and of course piston fill compared to the Diplomat).Mine gives a touch of feedback, but its been "binderized." Personally I like a little more feedback like I get in a regular M200 nib. I've only heard great things about the Diplomat nibs.


Inked:  Aurora Optima EF (Pelikan Tanzanite); Franklin Christoph Pocket 20 Needlepoint (Sailor Kiwa Guro); Sheaffers PFM I Reporter/Fine (Diamine Oxblood); Franklin Christoph 02 Medium Stub (Aurora Black);  Platinum Plaisir Gunmetal EF (Platinum Brown); Platinum Preppy M (Platinum Blue-Black). Leaded: Palomino Blackwing 602; Lamy Scribble 0.7 (Pentel Ain Stein 2B); Uni Kuru Toga Roulette 0.5 (Uni Kuru Toga HB); Parker 51 Plum 0.9 (Pilot Neox HB)


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Posted 24 August 2017 - 20:53

I would expect the Diplomat to be a nail nib...I've had one I sold....a very light well balanced nail. I have another silver plated one that 'belongs' to my wife....not that she uses it. It's a nail.

 

The 215 Lozenge I have.

I trans-mailed some 200's nibs to a pal in England, and became very impressed with them. They were as good as my '90's 14 K M400, 381, and the gold nibbed Celebry. The steel nibbed Celebry was their equal.

I had thought I needed no 200's so bought the 215. It's nib was as good as the '90's nibs, in it was like them 'true' regular flex nibs. I later bought a 200 and a W.Germany 200. The nib of the W.Germany era was a slight bit more springy than the '200's and gold '90's nibs.

 

I call it 'true' regular flex in that was once a regular issue.

I wouldn't want someone to get confused thinking the modern nail, semi-nail regular issue is the same as regular flex. It's not.

Regular flex has some spring; some tine spread, is a comfortable ride. The 200/215 has the semi-vintage ('82-97) width....1/2 a width narrower than modern 400/600 Pelikan...which are fat blobby semi-nails. I find the 200/215's nib to be much the superior nib.


German vintage '50-70 semi-flex stubs and those in oblique give the real thing in On Demand line variation. Modern Oblique is a waste of money for a shadow of line variation. Being too lazy to Hunt for affordable vintage oblique pens, lets you 'hunt' for line variation instead of having it.

www.nibs.com/blog/nibster-writes/nibs-germany & https://www.peter-bo...cts/nib-systems,

 

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

 

 






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