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Has anyone tried mixing a blurple ink (similar to Binder Blurple), but using different brands? Would the chromatography of other brands not work well with the formula/ratio?

 

I'd like to try it with J. Herbin Bleu Nuit and Poussiere de Lune for a darker blurple, but I'm afraid I just ran out of PdL so I can't experiment right now. Just curious as to whether or not any other blue and purple ink would work.I read somewhere that the dye components that make up an ink, and the mixing thereof, may result in a different color than expected.

 

My obsession with Noodler's Kung Te Cheng (which I can't get a hold of where I'm from - out of stock from the only store that sells it 😓) and blurple inks has me resorting to mixing my own.

 

I haven't really tried ink mixing so I wanted to ask if anyone's tried, before I proceed with ruining some ink. 😅

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I suppose several blues mixed with purples would make a satisfactory 'blurple' but you want to try to not make it 'muddy' or 'dirty' looking. So I personally would start with single dye blues and simple purples rather than using something like PdL with a blue-black like Bleu Nuit.

 

If I was making it I would use cheaper inks (like Waterman or Diamine) but if I could only get Herbin inks, I would buy Violette Pensée and Sapphir.

 

Start with a nice bright blue, add a little into a vial then add just one drop of purple at a time until you get the shade you want. Many Royal Blue inks already contain some purple, so they don't have far to go to become Blurple.

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Hmm. Sounds interesting 😊 I went with Bleu Nuit and PdL because I had them at hand 😅 But the Eclat de Sapphir + Violette Pensée seems promising. I'm pretty limited as to brands of inks available here, so I guess I'll have to stick to J. Herbin (I can get the small bottles).

 

I'm trying to get a color similar to Noodler's Kung Te Cheng, and I was wondering if it's okay to add Perle Noire to make it darker, or will that change the color if added? 😓

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I tried a blurple with a couple of non-Waterman inks once. It came out muddy, not at all as vibrant as the Waterman blurple that Binder suggests. (Binder burgundy is also terrific -- Waterman purple and Sheaffer Skrip red in a 50/50 mix.)

 

Chrissy's point explains the failure pf my mixture -- there may be dyes that you don't see in a specific ink that interact badly in a mix.

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Hinky, if you really want KTC, you should have someone shipping it to you. In all the inks I have tried, nothing is exactly like KTC or BSB.

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Hmm. Sounds interesting I went with Bleu Nuit and PdL because I had them at hand But the Eclat de Sapphir + Violette Pensée seems promising. I'm pretty limited as to brands of inks available here, so I guess I'll have to stick to J. Herbin (I can get the small bottles).

 

I'm trying to get a color similar to Noodler's Kung Te Cheng, and I was wondering if it's okay to add Perle Noire to make it darker, or will that change the color if added?

 

Many inks have black added, but they are usually blacks with a bit of purple. Perle Noire might also introduce a muddy factor. If you get to the Blurple you require first, then you could try mixing it with a cocktail stick dipped into Perle Noire. Adding black almost always ruins ink mixes because people add too much.

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#Chrissy: sorry, had them mixed up

 

NP - Me too! :) I had originally typed my whole reply based on the question being about Binder Burgundy until I suddenly saw the word Blurple in the text :huh:

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If you want a great blurple, choose a vibrant purple and a great turquoise.

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I just got half a bottle of Pelikan 4001 Royal Blue in a trade (mainly for the Montblanc bottle it came in). After confirming the ink was as boring as expected, I thought maybe I could mix a nice blurple out of it.

 

Does anyone know if using one of the washable "royal blues" pen manufacturers all seem to make can serve as the basis of a good blurple? I'm slightly skeptical because all these washable blues fade after a few days, so a blurple mixed from them is likely to fade too.

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