Omas Differences

[jkingrph]

What is the difference in the Amerigo Vespucci and the Ogvia A.M 87 pens?

[katanankes]

What is the difference in the Amerigo Vespucci and the Ogvia A.M 87 pens?

 

Good question. Beside the different "narrative" behind each series, they are basically the same pen in briarwood based on the Ogiva model.

 

From what I understand, the Vespucci is a bit darker in the red shade, while the AM 87 comes in different shades, but no one as the Vespucci.

 

Then you probably already know the backstory. AM 87 is a tribute to Armando Simoni, the founder of Omas. Now memory fails me, not sure why the 87... Vespucci is a special edition that ran for a few years as a tribute to the Vespucci, the training ship of the Italian Navy.

[fabri00]

My AM87 in wood do not have the ring in the section, while Vespucci have it.

[jkingrph]

Thanks. I have an A.M.87 pen and am trying to match a ballpoint to it. It looks like either will be a good match.

[Tinjapan]

I have both pens. My A.M. 87 is much smaller tham the Amerigo Vespucci.

 

Kingdom Note in Tokyo has recently had seversl A.M. 87 pens for sale that have sported both the A.M. 87 on the barrel AND a section ring with the greek key pattern. I have not checked to see if the size is the same as my A.M. 87.

 

jkingrph.

 

I have an A.M. 87 tobac (light brown or tan color) ball point pen available for sale. PM me if interested.

 

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[raivtash]

I have a couple of AM87 and had a couple of Vespucci. My 87s and Vespuccis are same in size and design. The only real difference is color.

[Tinjapan]

Somehow I went from less than 50% of my alloted space for attachments to exceeding my limit with out posting anything, so I can not post the pic of my Amerigo Vespucci next to my A.M. 87. Not all are the same size. My A. M. 87 is smaller. There are two sizes of at least one of these two pens.

[Babangita]

Somehow I went from less than 50% of my alloted space for attachments to exceeding my limit with out posting anything, so I can not post the pic of my Amerigo Vespucci next to my A.M. 87. Not all are the same size. My A. M. 87 is smaller. There are two sizes of at least one of these two pens.

I believe this to be true.

First I acquired an AM (in regular Ogiva size) in the same dark orange color as described above and with the ring on the section.

Later, when I wanted to complete all of the AM the colors (made intentionally or not in different shades of blue, green, dark brown, tobacco, orange and reddish if I'm not mistaken), I discovered by pure chance that there are two sizes of the AM model. Actually, I almost bought the smaller version a few times in auctions but luckily I was overbid, as the regular size fits perfectly my preferences.

The first is the regular size matching all of the Ogiva models including the Amerigo Vespucci with the ring on the section, and there's a smaller version of the AM without the ring. Unfortunately, I forgot the name of the model (AM87 Dama perhaps?).

I also believe that the same goes for the matching ball point pens.

One of these days, I'll try to find it in the old Omas catalogs from the time in order to give a more precise distinction.

[Tinjapan]

Yes, I also have the smaller ballpoint pen. My A.M. 87 is, as you say, without the section ring.

[Babangita]

Ok, just checked also to refresh my memory...

There were 3 collections in Briarwood.

First one was the Cristoforo Colombo II fountain pen in Paragon like faceted design only.

Second, the Amerigo Vespucci in dark red Briarwood and in the fountain pen, roller, ballpoint and lead pencil version.

Third, and most important for the topic there was the Briarwood AM87 in the fountain pen, roller, ballpoint and lead pencil version.

The color versions were (officially named) orange, chestnut, green and blue.

Besides this, lady version of the AM87 was also offered as a fountain pen and ballpoint in the cherry and hazel colors.

The latter had no ring on the gripping section and had a smaller nib in the fountain pen version.

I am glad we had this sorted out, so many times I forget to check or just refresh my memory even the right material are at hand.

Well, you may see the difference in the attached picture (sorry for the quality).

 

[Tinjapan]

Well, my smaller A.M. 87 is in Tobac color. Is it an "unofficial"?