Removing/replacing Nib To Waterman C/f

[eharriett]

I got from a discount box at the D.C. Show a Waterman C/F. I never had one of those, and the price was better than right. Came with an empty cartridge I could use for filling. So, why not?

 

To my disappointment, when I got it home, I discovered the nib is broken. Not repairable -- the bottom 5th is completely missing (guess that's why the discount). Pen appears to be in decent shape except for that.

 

So I started looking through this forum on how to remove it. I learned that the nib and feed is locked in by a threaded adapter. Unscrewed and removed. Easy. But the next part isn't. How to I remove the breather, feed, and nib remains? Should it just fall right out of the back of the section? If so, it is stuck. If there's another way to do it, I am missing it.

 

And then the next question: could someone recommend a good resource to replace the nib? This pen isn't popular enough to have a well advertised place to repair it. But I kind of want to get it working again.

 

Thanks.

[BT_Summers]

Hope that this helps a little, as you say the section is unscrewed from the connector, and feed does fall right out of the back, this diagram may help.. It it is stuck I would go through the usual process of a soak in a little warm water and see if some of the old and dried ink can be softened, inner feed first.

 

Waterman sold large numbers of the CF in France, I would keep checking on ebay.fr and a WTB ad in our classifieds

Edited August 9, 2017 by smiffy20000

[eharriett]

Thank you. The diagram helps too. I thought soaking would be the next step, but I wanted to make sure before I potentially damaged. Make sure there was no lock or anything like that. But that photo now has me wondering about the gasket too.

 

Are the French nibs for that model the same as the US nibs?

[BT_Summers]

You might be better off looking for a new section.

 

I was looking round on your behalf to see what was available and there was a very old FPN classified ad, back to 2009.

 

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/125059-fsnibs-nibs-nibsnos-semi-contemporary-stuff/

 

This person had some for sale and did not mark them as sold......there is a hope that he might still have some for sale.

 

Unfortunately he hasnt been active for a few years

[RMN]

You might be better off looking for a new section.

 

I was looking round on your behalf to see what was available and there was a very old FPN classified ad, back to 2009.

 

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/125059-fsnibs-nibs-nibsnos-semi-contemporary-stuff/

 

This person had some for sale and did not mark them as sold......there is a hope that he might still have some for sale.

 

Unfortunately he hasnt been active for a few years

 

I would forget about that. Membership title is listed as "away", meaning he is not a member any more. So not coming back.

 

 

D.ick

[eharriett]

Thanks for trying. I'm still working on trying to separate the parts. Been soaking it all day. I'm betting it will need a little longer before everything comes out.

[Parker51]

I may have a messed up C/F with a good section. I will check, and if I do I will bring it Sunday, if you are coming to Columbus for the meet up. As I recall, the nib was good, but there was something else wrong with the pen. I have a few C/Fs, cartridges, full and empty and a couple of converters, so I do pick up the occasional pen once in a while. With the current price for a converter being $45.00 and with them in the past disappearing completely from the market place and with no replacement cartridges being made, it typically is a pen that can be purchased for a small fraction of what it otherwise would be likely to sell for, if it was say a simialer Pilot of the same vintage using a cartridge.

[eharriett]

Yes, I will be there Sunday. Thank you. It would be much appreciated. I am a sucker for 30's-50's Watermans. I was going to bring a few other broken pens with me I have begun repairs on. All cheapies I wanted to learn how to fix myself; wanted a little guidance from you anyway as to how I am progressing.

[FarmBoy]

 

I would forget about that. Membership title is listed as "away", meaning he is not a member any more. So not coming back.

 

 

D.ick

If anyone knows where Doug is, a few of us are still waiting for our pens or a refund.

[BT_Summers]

If anyone knows where Doug is, a few of us are still waiting for our pens or a refund.

 

Says a lot.

 

Apologies for providing the link.

 

Best of luck to the OP in finding the CF nib.

Edited August 10, 2017 by smiffy20000

[elysee]

There is a section and a cap listed on eBay, http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Waterman-CF-Nib-Unit-With-Chrome-Waterman-Cap-no-Barrel-Parts-Nice-/253085709469?hash=item3aed15749d:g:0ZUAAOSwblZZJ2~F; I noticed the listing when I was looking at the new Waterman postings on eBay. This nib unit looks different from the other C/F nib units that I have seen and different from the one disassembled in this thread.

 

You should search eBay for

- "Waterman nib unit",

- "Waterman cf unit",

- "Waterman c/f unit",

- "Waterman c-f unit",

as well as variation with "nib" and/or "nib unit" as I believe that I saw a couple others as well.

Edited August 10, 2017 by elysee

[Pentode]

There is a section and a cap listed on eBay, http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Waterman-CF-Nib-Unit-With-Chrome-Waterman-Cap-no-Barrel-Parts-Nice-/253085709469?hash=item3aed15749d:g:0ZUAAOSwblZZJ2~F; I noticed the listing when I was looking at the new Waterman postings on eBay. This nib unit looks different from the other C/F nib units that I have seen and different from the one disassembled in this thread.

 

That appears to be a CC unit listed as a CF. I concur that the Bay is probably where you'll have the most luck. I see CFs included in pen lots sold "for repair" on Ebay fairly often as well as CFs with staining on the section or damage to the inlaid gold furniture. These would likely have serviceable nibs you could commandeer and could be had cheap.

 

As for converters, I recently ordered a few from Pen Boutique for MUCH less than the going rate. No affiliation here, but I'd say it's worth investigating:

http://www.penboutique.com/waterman-c-f-fountain-pen-converter.html

[wspohn]

Those white section pens are the cheaper version. The ones that look like inlaid Sheaffer style sections are the better level pens and can be found at decent prices. There's one on ebay right now starting at $25.

 

My favourite are the Crocodile models in both silver and gold, but they are much more expensive that they used to be.

 

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/1CwAAOSw~RhZfq1B/s-l1600.jpg

[RMN]

If anyone knows where Doug is, a few of us are still waiting for our pens or a refund.

 

Now where did I hear this discussion before, recently...?

 

Somewhere on Facebook perhaps....?

 

 

 

D.ick

[eharriett]

Those white section pens are the cheaper version. The ones that look like inlaid Sheaffer style sections are the better level pens and can be found at decent prices. There's one on ebay right now starting at $25.

 

My favourite are the Crocodile models in both silver and gold, but they are much more expensive that they used to be.

 

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/1CwAAOSw~RhZfq1B/s-l1600.jpg

Ooh! I have not seen that one before. I'll have to keep an eye out. Although, I want to see how much I like this one first. But since it is Waterman, I'm sure I'll love it.