Visconti Limited Edition Gross Nib Misrepresentation Issue

[fountainpenlady]

I would like some advice. I purchased from another member a Visconti HomoSapiens Mazzi. The pen has just arrived from Romania. I am including the description of the advertisement. The nib, however, writes like a scratch needle. I am beyond disappointment. I am angry. I feel the seller misrepresented the pen's nib. I telephoned Coles of London who repairs Visconti in the USA. They said I would have to send the pen to them. As I don't have a receipt since it was purchased from someone on here, and the fact that it is reground, if they even have another Palladian extra fine nib in stock, or they would have to send it to Italy, I am still going to be out of more money besides the cost of the pen. Roughly $400.00 more and of couse the turnaround time. I found a place in the UK which sells the Visconti Palladian nibs for roughly $245.00, and hoping it is a #6 nib as that is what this nib seems to be. OR, I could simply order a Goulet extra fine two-tone nib which looks like the original color scheme and try to forget the rest of this really rotten and awful purchase by a fellow FountainpenNetwork seller. I am including the original description of the nib and photograph of the nib which accompanied the advertisement. I am hurt, disappointed, angry and most of all I am beyond livid. I welcome suggestions, advice, commiserating, I do not know what to do.

 

Visconti Homo Sapiens Mazzi 016/388 (Bruno Mazzi airbrushed),
with an EF japanese regrind, smooth soft nib,
with a 7-8 flow. The pen is in pristine condition,
it comes with visconti box.

Edited August 2, 2017 by fountainpenlady

[Crazyorange]

Why not send it to a nib master? Somebody like dan smith. I've gotten pens with terrible nibs and sent them off for "help" with a nib master. Comes back like new.

[fountainpenlady]

Why not send it to a nib master? Somebody like dan smith. I've gotten pens with terrible nibs and sent them off for "help" with a nib master. Comes back like new.

Thanks, just spoke to a nibmeister in California. He said that this particular regrind is for expert users. Also, I am left handed, which makes it even less usable for me. I am thinking about paying the extra money to get another Palladian nib in extra fine. So, as it turns out it might be smooth to the seller because he knows how to use this kind of reground nib. I on the other-hand am not one and also left handed.

Edited August 2, 2017 by fountainpenlady

[richyrich]

What did the seller have to say - did you contact him/her? Like Crazyorange says, it may just need a tweek by a good nib master. If it's really bad (and the nib master can back you up) why not return the pen for a refund?

[lionheartlee]

Is the air brush amazing? Sorry to hear about your Nib. Too thin for me. I like gushers

[Crazyorange]

Thanks, just spoke to a nibmeister in California. He said that this particular regrind is for expert users. Also, I am left handed, which makes it even less usable for me. I am thinking about paying the extra money to get another Palladian nib in extra fine. So, as it turns out it might be smooth to the seller because he knows how to use this kind of reground nib. I on the other-hand am not one and also left handed.

You could try the adverts and see if someone would exchange nibs? May be there's someone out there who would want the grind on a Visconti nib?

[fountainpenlady]

Why not send it to a nib master? Somebody like dan smith. I've gotten pens with terrible nibs and sent them off for "help" with a nib master. Comes back like new.

It funny you should mention him. He is the Nibmeister who told me something I did not know and I have been collecting pens for years. I had never heard of Japanese regrind. I only knew it was an extra fine in the description.I called Dan Smith and it was he who told me about the uniqueness involved with an extra fine Japanese regrind. It is for someone who does calligraphy and who is an expert and not a left-handed person. Also, and I am guessing here, you can regrind or tweak a nib say which is a medium, broad, but doubt there is enough nib left with an extra-fine regrind. So, far it will cost me additionally to get a Palladian nib and as such I could have simply gotten a regular HomoSapien Bronze in extra fine and called it a wrap. Argh

[fountainpenlady]

You could try the adverts and see if someone would exchange nibs? May be there's someone out there who would want the grind on a Visconti nib?

Thank you, I had not thought of that option. I might try that one. So far, Coles of London, who is in North Carolina where I am also is wanting $400 - $500 for an extra fine Palladian nib and I do not even know whether I require it. I have enjoyed 14kt gold nibs which are extra fine and I did have to get a couple worked on when we had our pen show. I am unsure at this point whether spending enough money to buy a new pen is worth it to me at this point. Thanks for the suggestion, I may try it.

[Chrissy]

Did you ask the original seller if you could return the pen or is that something you would rather not do?

[fountainpenlady]

Is the air brush amazing? Sorry to hear about your Nib. Too thin for me. I like gushers

Yes, it is! Also, I was able to get what looks like a carnelian replacement finial mount. It matches perfectly. I tried to use a Goulet nib just to see how it writes because I am unable to do so with its original nib, but the Goulet nib is a #6 and I think the Mazzi requires a smaller #5. The body of it is amazing though and why after doing some research and Youtubing, I decided if I were going to get a HomoSapien I thought I would love the uniqueness of the body of the Mazzi. It does look like what a volcano would resemble.

[fountainpenlady]

Is the air brush amazing? Sorry to hear about your Nib. Too thin for me. I like gushers

Sorry, my internet froze and when it does that it tends to duplicate since I am unaware whether my posts have actually posted until it unfreezes and duplicates apparently.

Edited August 2, 2017 by fountainpenlady

[lionheartlee]

Is it a midi or a maxi?

[fountainpenlady]

Is the air brush amazing? Sorry to hear about your Nib. Too thin for me. I like gushers

Yes, it is! Also, I was able to get what looks like a carnelian replacement finial mount. It matches perfectly. I tried to use a Goulet nib just to see how it writes because I am unable to do so with its original nib, but the Goulet nib is a #6 and I think the Mazzi requires a smaller #5. The body of it is amazing though and why after doing some research and Youtubing, I decided if I were going to get a HomoSapien I thought I would love the uniqueness of the body of the Mazzi. It does look like what a volcano would resemble.

 

What did the seller have to say - did you contact him/her? Like Crazyorange says, it may just need a tweek by a good nib master. If it's really bad (and the nib master can back you up) why not return the pen for a refund?

At this point, I am unsure whether I have the right to request a refund. I don't know if it is smooth. It is not smooth to me. However, it is my fault for not knowing what a Japanese regrind is and not his I guess. If nothing else, in all the years of collecting, buying, also selling, I have learned something new today. Not that the cost of the pen, which is nothing to sneeze at lessens the hurt of not being able to actually write with a pen purchased. I have replaced it in its box and am waiting to figure out what option. I know I have no intention of paying $400-$500 for another extra-fine nib.

[fountainpenlady]

Is it a midi or a maxi?

I believe it is a maxi because its size reminds me of the bronze HomoSapien. Yet, I believe the nib is a #5 and not a #6. I tried to replace a Goulet nib and it was too wide in girth. The nib and feed just pull out, you don't have to twist the nib and feed or anything, but you do have to align the nib with the feed and push it back in after you find the right position of the groove or whatever since it does not just pop in at all angles.

[fountainpenlady]

Apologies, another computer freeze, and duplicate disaster.

 

Edited August 2, 2017 by fountainpenlady

[fountainpenlady]

Did you ask the original seller if you could return the pen or is that something you would rather not do?

I believe Chrissy this may be my fault for not knowing beyond it being beyond an extra fine. If so, and I am wrong, and simply because it requires me to know how to use an extra fine regrind and be right-handed, it is probably something which is not due to the seller. Since I am not an expert on the nib, I don't know and in that case, I am unsure whether contacting the seller is doable.

[lionheartlee]

I don't know about the Goulet Nib. But I have a gold Visconti Nib that's a fine. It was knocked out of my hand and a Nib smith quoted me st 35$ to re align it. I've no experience with a Japanese grind but I am now curious. Any interest in a trade? I know getting a bent Nib isn't ideal, but fixing my gold Nib would be easier than re grinding the Nib you have.

[fountainpenlady]

I don't know about the Goulet Nib. But I have a gold Visconti Nib that's a fine. It was knocked out of my hand and a Nib smith quoted me st 35$ to re align it. I've no experience with a Japanese grind but I am now curious. Any interest in a trade? I know getting a bent Nib isn't ideal, but fixing my gold Nib would be easier than re grinding the Nib you have.

Let me think about it since I have ordered from Goulet an Edison #5 nib in two-tone. I read the reviews and apparently once you take the nib out of the housing it comes in, you can use it on other pens. Someone purchased it for a Jinhao and a Levenger and can't recall the third pen it was used to replace. Right now, I could not find a Nibmeister since if they are not on Summer vacation, they are in DC for the Pen Show. I posted in the Classified for an exchange so if you don't mind, let me see whether I can temporarily at least be able to write with the pen. The nib I have is a two-tone Palladian, although the Goulet will be two-tone steel extra-fine.

[lionheartlee]

Alright sounds good

[EclecticCollector]

You won't be able to fit either a Goulet #5 or a #6 nib in the Visconti nib unit housing. They are just not the same sizes. For a replacement Visconti nib unit don't bother with Coles, La Couronne du Comte will sell you one for much less, shipped free, and you don't even need to send them your pen! You will need the "large" size.