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langere Antique

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I'm going to go and check my Viscontis right now... :huh:

 

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Visconti Voyager 30 "M" nib running Birmingham Streetcar

Jinhao 9019 "EF" nib running Birmingham Railroad Spike

Stipula Adagio "F" nib running Birmingham Violet Sea Snail

Pelikan M1000 "F" nib running Birmingham Sugar Kelp

 

 

 

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Saw this pen in person and Shawn's workmanship is incredible!

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By saying ventilation, I presume they mean moving or open air, not in a closed container/box.

Likely what is needed is to dissipate/remove the outgassing from the decomposing celluloid, so that it does not affect other pens.

 

Not sure if my method is right, but I have my celluloid pens together in a tray within an airy display case. I have several silica gel bags within the cabinet and my opening and closing of the doors is 'frequent', usually reaching for more pens :P

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raging.dragon Antique

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This makes me nervous about some of the Visconti celluloid I have in my collection. Hopefully you'll still be around when these pens start falling apart.

 

I've read that Visconti's coral (the one that failed here), lapis and uffuzi celluloids are prone to both degrading and corroding metal trim (the latter I presume to be a result of acids or other corrosive chemicals seeping from the celluloid as it degrades). I haven't seen anything about other Visconti celluloids degrading.

 

 

That seems to be rather general. As far as I know, OMAS was producing its celluloid "in-house" right up to the end, and from what I understand, Visconti does its own "in-house" production as well ... at least I have seen a relatively recent video suggesting that.

 

I've read OMAS, Visconti, and other Italian brands offering modern celluloid had it made to their specifications by an Italian plastics manufacturer. Visconti in particular also used batches of vintage celluloid (including, I believe, the failure prone celluloids I listed above). OMAS boasted about the great lengths they went to in aging their celluloids to avoid shrinkage and other problems.

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Nice material but for how long?Is it worth the price of the pen?

 

Are you referring to the original material or the rebuilt pen?

My friend picked this up for cheap, I want to say around $80, but knowing him probably way less, with the intent to give it to me for this rebuild, so for him it was worth it. Not sure if it would be worth it to everybody. :)

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The same model also crumbled on me some time ago. It is a beautiful celluloid, but very delicate it seems. I bought one Omas EE Ercolessi (?) some years ago from Singapore and last time I looked at it, it crumbled as well. They were not stored together. All my other pens seems to be ok. Fingers crossed.

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