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Japanese is on the whole a size narrower than Euro..........so one would need to find a XXF in Western to = a Japanese EF.....Japanese nib is designed for tiny printed script.

Western for cursive.

 

So if you want super narrow, buy Japanese. Or if you are a printer....Japanese is the best way to fly,

 

 

:P Of course you have to only use supersaturated vivid (boring) inks :headsmack:

.....no two toned shading inks :notworthy1: , no sheen inks :thumbup: ......and I doubt if glitter inks :happyberet: will work with super narrow. :rolleyes:

 

Of course super narrow is good on poor paper... :wacko:

Well, some blacks end up gray in narrow on poor paper. :(

I don't know about glitter because it doesn't appeal to me but I certainly get shading from my fine nibs! I write cursive on the small side and a broader nib renders it illegible, especially on bad paper.

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I only have a three western EF pens, a maxi-semi-flex, a semi-vintage regular flex and a nail; which I use for editing only.

I get no shading or none that I can see. I strive to use at least 'good' paper of 90g or better.

 

With western F nibs I get shading. I write cursive on the large side, having to think hard and work at tiny.

If one uses a wider lined paper broader nibs are just fine. Wider lines can be self printed, from free templates. Wider lines help IMO tiny writers to expand their script, to fill the extra space.

 

Semi-flex has good line variation, but needs a very good match of ink and paper for shading in because of ease of tine spread is a wetter writer.

The old fashioned vintage, semi-vintage or modern Pelikan 200 'true' regular flex are very good shading nibs.

 

For shading I like the old fashioned springy 'true' regular flex nibs and in F&M; M being a much better nib than it's reputation. In most folks come in with an M and go skinny or fat.

An M nib gets a bad reputation here...that I had swallowed.

 

To my vast surprise using a nice brown shading ink MB Toffee, M was better for shading than F or B. It opened my eyes to the much maligned M nib as it's own size and characteristics not just something between F and B.

I find F&M nibs good for shading. M is a very underrated nib..

There are times when a B is a bit too wet.

 

On 90 g paper, MB Toffee is a nice brown shading ink..

Fine was light with dark trails.
Medium was 50-50. :yikes: Destroying the "boring M" myth for me.
Broad was dark with light trails.

In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

 

 

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

 

 

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I only have a three western EF pens, a maxi-semi-flex, a semi-vintage regular flex and a nail; which I use for editing only.

I get no shading or none that I can see. I strive to use at least 'good' paper of 90g or better.

 

With western F nibs I get shading. I write cursive on the large side, having to think hard and work at tiny.

If one uses a wider lined paper broader nibs are just fine. Wider lines can be self printed, from free templates. Wider lines help IMO tiny writers to expand their script, to fill the extra space.

 

Semi-flex has good line variation, but needs a very good match of ink and paper for shading in because of ease of tine spread is a wetter writer.

The old fashioned vintage, semi-vintage or modern Pelikan 200 'true' regular flex are very good shading nibs.

 

For shading I like the old fashioned springy 'true' regular flex nibs and in F&M; M being a much better nib than it's reputation. In most folks come in with an M and go skinny or fat.

An M nib gets a bad reputation here...that I had swallowed.

 

To my vast surprise using a nice brown shading ink MB Toffee, M was better for shading than F or B. It opened my eyes to the much maligned M nib as it's own size and characteristics not just something between F and B.

I find F&M nibs good for shading. M is a very underrated nib..

There are times when a B is a bit too wet.

 

On 90 g paper, MB Toffee is a nice brown shading ink..

Fine was light with dark trails.

Medium was 50-50. :yikes: Destroying the "boring M" myth for me.

Broad was dark with light trails.

My two inks that I go back and forth using, Pilot Blue Black and Sheaffer Blue Black, seem to shade with about anything. The Pilot moreso. I think that stuff would shade with a needle. The Sheaffer not as much, although it shades with printing for sure. I almost always write cursive.

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Many inks shade with printing in the strokes end up with ink just sitting on them.......I'm not heavy into BB, only have some 7 of them.

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In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

 

 

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

 

 

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