Pilot Sutab (Su) Stub Nib - Same Across All Supported Pens?

[flight878]

As a left-handed writer, I've been looking at a narrow stub nib, as I enjoy the line variation based on my experience with the Pilot Plumix that has a 1.1-mm stub nib.

 

I've researched that the following Pilot pens offer the SU nib:

• Custom 912
• Vanishing Point/Decimo
• Custom 742 and 743
• Custom 823
• Metropolitan

If there are others missing, please indicate.

 

The main question is, however: is this stub nib the same across all of these pens in terms of width? Some threads on this Custom 912 and Custom 742, for example, cite a 0.8-mm width, but The Goulet Pen Company's website described the Custom 912 nib having a 1.0-mm width.

 

I'm looking for a narrow version; I liked the writing samples presented of the Custom 742. That pen I found rather ugly, especially its clip with the ball tip. It would be nice if I could get the Stub nib assembly for the Vanishing Point, but not if it writes wider than what was shown in the Custom 742.

 

One key difference I found was that the VP nib is 18k, while the SU nib in the 742 is 14k gold. But other than that, are the nib widths of the SU nibs the same, just different gold carat and pen body?

[gerigo]

I personally don't have the stub nibs for the Custom pens, but have tried writing with them in Japan while waiting around at pen counters. These are a different beast than the stub on the VPs. I BELIEVE [don't quote me on this] the stub on VPs are not available in Japan and specifically developed for the Western market, and the stubs for the Custom pens were developed for Japan, and until recently was not officially available outside the shores of Japan.

 

For my own use, I find the Custom pens stub nibs not wide enough. They seem narrower than 1.0. The problem with these measurements is that you don't know whether people are measuring the physical nib itself, or the written line the nib has created. If it's a 1.0 and you have to round the corners of the nib to make it smoother, you're going to end up with a line closer to 0.8 or so. However the stubs for the VPs are also not wide, and pretty much limited to the smallness of the nib.

[jar]

Hopefully not the same.

[Immoteus]

If you're not a fan of the 742, the 912 has the same size nib in a modern flat-top body design.

[tartuffo]

 

....The main question is, however: is this stub nib the same across all of these pens in terms of width? .....

 

The short answer is probably - no . I think the Plumix nib you are referring to is the

same as the steel nib on the Prera , the CM calligraphy.

 

http://i.imgur.com/EShZWoI.png

 

It has more line variation

than ( the much maligned in this forum ) gold Sutab on the 742.

http://i.imgur.com/oBHdAC3.png

 

And I'd be willing to bet that the VP stub is quite different as well if only because

VP nibs are so unique .