Parker 51 And Modern Ink?

[Guest Gracie]

Vancouver Pen Shop told me to only use Waterman Florida Blue - now Serenity Blue I believe - in my Parker 51s and 61s, and I have done so without any problems whatsoever.

 

Btw, at what date did Quink stop containing Solv-X?

[Guest Gracie]

Vancouver Pen Shop told me to only use Waterman Florida Blue - now Serenity Blue - on my 51s and 61s, and I have done so without any problems whatsoever.

 

BTW, what year did Quink stop using Solv-X?

[dcwaites]

Some time in the '90s. I don't know the exact year.

[Erik Dalton]

My areos have Aurora Blue-Black in them right now and I'm very happy with it. The plyglass Sacs in the areo is pretty rugged and can stand up to most inks. None the less I stick to "safer" inks like waterman, Aurora, Diamine (Midnight).

The vacs with their latex Sacs, only get waterman Serenity Blue.

I have a vintage Parker Vacuumatic (latex sac) that I've kept filled with Aurora Blue Black. Only been a couple months, but no issues so far.

[pajaro]

Vancouver Pen Shop told me to only use Waterman Florida Blue - now Serenity Blue - on my 51s and 61s, and I have done so without any problems whatsoever.

 

BTW, what year did Quink stop using Solv-X?

Kind of limiting. I have been using a midnight blue 51 since 1970, using Sheaffer blue black, Sanford's red, Montblanc blue black, Noodler's nightshade, white permanent laundry ink and other inks. My 51 works perfectly after forty-seven years. These are gutsy pens.

Edited May 29, 2017 by pajaro

[mitto]

Pajaro, I gather you like the midnight blue color like I do. I have never heared anyone saying their 51 died on them. These seem to be immortal.

[Aurora60]

Hi , I bought a 51 from Pentooling and the advice I was given regarding inks to use was

 

 

Use only : Parker

 

Waterman

 

Sheaffer

 

Avoid : Old ink

[Aurora60]

I wouldn’t use the shimmer inks but does anyone know if the other Diamine inks are ok.

[pajaro]

I wouldn’t use the shimmer inks but does anyone know if the other Diamine inks are ok.

 

I have used the diamine Midnight (blue black), black green and black inks in aerometric 51s. I think they would be safe in a Vacumatic 51 as well. The shimmer inks and some nano pigmented inks like Montblanc Permanent Blue are supposed to cause issues. MB Permanent Blue seemed to clog some Waterman Laureat and Phileas pens and some Sheaffer Touchdown Imperials with inlaid nibs. Didn't try it in my 51s.

[mitto]

I use

 

Parker

 

Sheaffer

 

Waterman and

 

Pelikan

 

inks in my 51s.

[Glenn-SC]

I use only modern inks in my FPs.

 

I've used any modern ink in my "51"s except Noodlers, and have had no issues with them.

 

I don't use Noodlers in ANY FP that I own anymore because of bad experiences with it and other pens.

[ac12]

I "think" the reason for Waterman, is that it will clean out easier.

As was said, a 51 can be a PiA to clean of old ink. So the easier the ink flushes, the easier it is to clean out, to change inks.

If you keep to ONE ink, then it really does not matter, as you will be doing a full clean very infrequently.

 

The problem is Diamine has a WIDE ink line, so you cannot make a blanket statement of their inks.

I have and like Sherwood Green. But it CLOGS in many of my pens. It needs a WET pen, to have a decent chance at not clogging.

[ENewton]

The only Diamine ink I have is Grape, and I would not use it in any vintage pen, for fear it would turn to sludge in a nook or cranny.

 

I understand that other Diamine inks are less apt to cause drama.

 

In vintage pens, I use less saturated inks, such as Waterman, J Herbin, Rohrer & Klingner, and Birmingham.

[BergerDM]

Anyone know if Diamine's Asa Blue would be a problematic ink? I really like the tone. If it is, I can probably get Parker ink, but I've already spent on the Diamines, so...

Edited June 12, 2019 by BergerDM

[silverlifter]

I would ink up an aerometric with Diamine. I just would make sure I did not let it sit unused for any length of time.

[Paul80]

Only use Parker Quink in mine and never had any issues.

 

An interesting side note, I have some new Pli-glass sacs supplied by a well know sac supplier in the UK that quickly turned white after the pens were flushed with water. Anyone else get this with sacs form their supplier?

 

Paul

[inkstainedruth]

I've used a variety of brands of ink in my 51s, especially the Aerometric models. The Plum Demi Aero has, in particular, seen a lot of highly saturated inks and purple inks (Private Reserve Ebony Purple and Noodler's Purple Heart, as well as Diamine Eclipse and Tyrian Purple). No ill effects from any of them, but then I also tend to be pretty OCD about flushing. Right now, I've got the Midnight Blue Aero in rotation, and it's just rocking KWZI Chicago Blue LE.... I'm a little more careful with the 51 Vacs, because those are more likely to need repairs/new diaphragms when I get them (the Aerometric models almost always just need to be flushed out well and they're good to go when I get them -- I think I had to replace the sac on the Teal Aero, but the others are just great.

I'm actually more careful about what goes into the Parker 61s, so I don't clog the capillary fillers -- those are a serious PITA to flush). And also the Vacs and Laidtone Duofolds (but that's because of staining the celluloid as much as damage to the diaphragm). I did probably have pre-mature failure of the replacement diaphragm in the Azure Blue Pearl Sub-Debutante Vac because of the ink -- but De Atramentis Red Roses just looked so danged pretty coming out of that pen (and the scent -- really smells just like heirloom roses are supposed to smell, and by that I DON'T mean the Foetidas... ).

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

 

ETA: I don't use IG inks (too difficult to flush out of sac pens) or Shimmer inks in my 51s, but that's as much because Shimmer inks really do better in broader nibs to show to best advantage on the page. OTOH, I don't think twice about putting them in a 1980s Pelikan M100 because it's got a 1 mm stub.

Edited June 12, 2019 by inkstainedruth

[BergerDM]

I would ink up an aerometric with Diamine. I just would make sure I did not let it sit unused for any length of time.

 

Not a Vacumatic?

[silverlifter]

 

Not a Vacumatic?

 

No. I can easily flush an aero. Vacumatics are a little more tedious to clean thoroughly; it just would not be worth the hassle.

[BergerDM]

 

No. I can easily flush an aero. Vacumatics are a little more tedious to clean thoroughly; it just would not be worth the hassle.

 

Thanks for the reply. I'll be getting a Vac 51 in a few days and I'm still not sure with what to ink it up with. I don't have ready access to every brand out there, so I'm trying to find a decent blue to put in it.