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Parker 51... ...or... A Lamy 2000?

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#81 AL01

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Posted 21 May 2017 - 15:06

Get one from a well known restorer. Spend a little extra. It's worth it to not have issues later on.

 

 

 There is a pen shop in which I have some credit at. I have bought an Estie J from them and their restorations are top notch, so no worries there.  :)



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#82 hungpk

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Posted 25 May 2017 - 14:23

I have a Lamy 2000. That is an iconic of design.



#83 AL01

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Posted 25 May 2017 - 21:18

 It is. The design speaks to me. I'll probably be able to look at the two pens in August... This topic will go dormant for a while.... But do look out for my final verdict.

 

 

 Thanks for the help, Al.



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Posted 27 May 2017 - 15:56

We would be waiting (for the final verdict).
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Posted 11 June 2017 - 01:43

 Wellwelllwellwellwellwell.....

 

 I jus' wen' to my loco' pen shap.

 

 An' I tried a Lamy 2000.

 

 I don' like it no' more.

 

 So.............

 

 I accidentaly tried a faceted VP.

 

 I liked it.

 

 Oh boy.......

 

 Sometime July, I should be able to try out a P51. 

 

 I think the P51 won.

 

 For NOW....

 

  :wallbash: (Could there be a twist in this story? I don't know...)


Edited by AL01, 11 June 2017 - 01:44.


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Posted 11 June 2017 - 20:56

Sounds like you want a workhorse.  I've yet to find an aerometric that holds that much ink, especially compared to a good piston.

I'd go 2K.  


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Posted 11 June 2017 - 21:22

Wellwelllwellwellwellwell.....
 
 I jus' wen' to my loco' pen shap.
 
 An' I tried a Lamy 2000.
 
 I don' like it no' more.
 
 So.............
 
 I accidentaly tried a faceted VP.
 
 I liked it.
 
 Oh boy.......
 
 Sometime July, I should be able to try out a P51. 
 
 I think the P51 won.
 
 For NOW....
 
  :wallbash: (Could there be a twist in this story? I don't know...)


You just answered your own question - if you don't like the 2k then it's not the pen for you! P51 may not be either; you have to try it for yourself. Sounds like you will have that opportunity next month?

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Posted 12 June 2017 - 03:42

 Yep. 

 

 The suspense....

 

 (If I get lucky.... Maybe next week.)



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Posted 12 June 2017 - 09:21

51, i find it nicer, only ever tried though, dont own either!



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Posted 13 June 2017 - 07:35

for EDC, a lamy 2000 is about as durable as it gets.


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Posted 13 June 2017 - 09:06

For me the P51's filling system, whilst brilliant, makes cleaning a p.i.t.a. which puts me off having it as an EDC. It is a good pen though (even if I personally find the slippery plastic barrel a dealbreaker)!



#92 AL01

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 21:43

 ....

 

 I think the 2K's material is off putting. Oh well...

 

 

 I still have time till that promised day in late July...



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Posted 14 June 2017 - 23:01

I like them both. For me, the edge goes to the 2000, but if you find a good deal on a nice 51, buy it first. You can always buy a 2000.😀😀

#94 AL01

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Posted 15 June 2017 - 20:55

 That's true...

 

 Like I said, I will check again this July.

 

 I will buy a pen over there...

 

 And the verdict shall be determined...



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I'm sorry, I didn't mean to rile you😀😀

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Posted 16 June 2017 - 07:56

 ....

 

 I think the 2K's material is off putting. Oh well...

 

 

 I still have time till that promised day in late July...

 

If it's that horrible glass on glass feeling when you cap it or screw/unscrew the piston, that goes away within a month. The fiberglass just needs to settle in. I personally love the Makrolon, much like the delrin of some super high end chef's knife handles. It wears in to your hands, but after a few months, the material feels as natural as your own skin.

 

Personally, I own a L2K F. If I had the chance to switch it for free, I'd go for EF. I think it's the best EDC pen that's ever been made, and that kind of means that it should write a line that is quick drying on receipts and super well behaved on absolutely abysmal copy paper.

 

I honestly might just look for a second hand EF L2K. My F nib is super wet and I adore it on my good paper, but I want a beater L2k, since it's just got so many incredible things going for it (super amazing grip, good weight, comfortable posted, great flow, hair of softness in the nib, and durability unmatched by even ebonite bodies) that I just think it should be an EF for everyday usage to supplant my current Pilot metropolitan F, Pilot Custom Heritage 91, or Schaeffer Stateman Snorkel (my current favorite pen in my ~60 pen collection)


Edited by Honeybadgers, 16 June 2017 - 08:00.

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Posted 16 June 2017 - 14:46

If you are into writing fine lines, the L2K ain't the pen for you. Even the L2K EF writes lines as wide as a japanese medium. Same as the Pelikan EF, unfortunately.

 

https://www.nibs.com...b-tipping-sizes



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Posted 17 June 2017 - 03:59

 

If it's that horrible glass on glass feeling when you cap it or screw/unscrew the piston, that goes away within a month. The fiberglass just needs to settle in. I personally love the Makrolon, much like the delrin of some super high end chef's knife handles. It wears in to your hands, but after a few months, the material feels as natural as your own skin.

 

Personally, I own a L2K F. If I had the chance to switch it for free, I'd go for EF. I think it's the best EDC pen that's ever been made, and that kind of means that it should write a line that is quick drying on receipts and super well behaved on absolutely abysmal copy paper.

 

I honestly might just look for a second hand EF L2K. My F nib is super wet and I adore it on my good paper, but I want a beater L2k, since it's just got so many incredible things going for it (super amazing grip, good weight, comfortable posted, great flow, hair of softness in the nib, and durability unmatched by even ebonite bodies) that I just think it should be an EF for everyday usage to supplant my current Pilot metropolitan F, Pilot Custom Heritage 91, or Schaeffer Stateman Snorkel (my current favorite pen in my ~60 pen collection)

 

 

 No.............

 

 The section/ gripping area. 

 

 Again, I wasn't able to REALLY try it... 

 

 So I will look at it in more detail soon.



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Posted 18 June 2017 - 02:52

I have both pens, and find I prefer the aerometric 51 over a L2000 by far.  I found the stainless steel on the Lamy too slippery, yet somehow the plastic section on the 51s is perfect.  I'd say 51 nibs are quite a bit harder too, with zero line variation if that's your thing.

 

The only one I haven't enjoyed was an EF which was horrid.  I have 2 Medium 51s right now and they are great writers, as were the other broader nibs I had in the past. I think they work better in broader nib sizes due to the tipping material.  Have you considered a 61?  All of mine have been absolutely amazing, and I prefer them to 51s, especially in narrower nib sizes.

 

51s in Australia can be had for next to nothing, which is another reason I prefer them.  Check UK and Australian sources and you should be able to get one for half the price of a L2000.  



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Posted 18 June 2017 - 03:30

I have both pens, and find I prefer the aerometric 51 over a L2000 by far.  I found the stainless steel on the Lamy too slippery, yet somehow the plastic section on the 51s is perfect.  I'd say 51 nibs are quite a bit harder too, with zero line variation if that's your thing.
 
The only one I haven't enjoyed was an EF which was horrid.  I have 2 Medium 51s right now and they are great writers, as were the other broader nibs I had in the past. I think they work better in broader nib sizes due to the tipping material.  Have you considered a 61?  All of mine have been absolutely amazing, and I prefer them to 51s, especially in narrower nib sizes.
 
51s in Australia can be had for next to nothing, which is another reason I prefer them.  Check UK and Australian sources and you should be able to get one for half the price of a L2000.  


Hi Aggoo,

Thank you for this illuminating post. :)

No, I haven't considered a 61... I never even thought about a 61 (or a 75) as an alternative to the 51.

How does the 51 and 61 compare and contrast in your opinion?

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