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Iron Gall, Preventing Mold Etc.

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#1 linearM

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Posted 26 April 2017 - 02:32

I walk in the college arboretum every weekday and noticed oak galls on some of the smaller oak trees.  Hmmm, maybe I should try making some iron gall ink!  That is what started it all.  I looked up recipes, found one that was simple enough and got the iron sulfate and gum arabic and now have a batch of iron gall ink that I am really enjoying using...with my dip pen not my vintage fountain pens. This is my first venture in making my own ink but may not be the last.  I have a black walnut in my front yard!

 

Now I'm wondering if I might have problem with mold growth or some other slimy organism fouling up the ink.  Is there a preservative that I should be using to prevent the problem, or maybe with the acidity that iron gall is supposed to have organisms aren't a problem.  I think I saw someplace that cloves could be placed in the container and would do the job.  Any suggestions or comments would be appreciated.  



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Posted 26 May 2017 - 00:06

Do a quick search here for a post by Sam Capote - I think the title is Biocide shoot out.  He does a great job.


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Posted 26 May 2017 - 01:59

The traditional biocide for old-style iron gall inks is vinegar, typically from wine or beer that has gone off. 

So, while you have your bucket of crushed galls fermenting (outside, please...) you need to have a jeroboam of really cheap, nasty wine beside it with the lid off. The air will get in and  " acetic acid bacteria [will consume] the alcohol in [the] wine and metabolizes it into acetic acid and acetaldehyde." 

The acetic acid will stop any other bacteria and fungus from growing and the acetaldehyde will stop the snails getting in and getting drunk on bad wine...


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Posted 26 May 2017 - 16:03

The traditional biocide for old-style iron gall inks is vinegar, typically from wine or beer that has gone off. 

So, while you have your bucket of crushed galls fermenting (outside, please...) you need to have a jeroboam of really cheap, nasty wine beside it with the lid off. The air will get in and  " acetic acid bacteria [will consume] the alcohol in [the] wine and metabolizes it into acetic acid and acetaldehyde." 

The acetic acid will stop any other bacteria and fungus from growing and the acetaldehyde will stop the snails getting in and getting drunk on bad wine...

Please forgive my for being judgmental.  That's disgusting !   :sick:  I just took a break from FPN, and ordered from Ebay -- twelve bottles of Thornton Blue for $21.52, free shipping.  I hope never to have to do this. :happyberet:  


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#5 dcwaites

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Posted 26 May 2017 - 23:06

Please forgive my for being judgmental.  That's disgusting !   :sick:  I just took a break from FPN, and ordered from Ebay -- twelve bottles of Thornton Blue for $21.52, free shipping.  I hope never to have to do this. :happyberet:  

 

Well, we are talking about making ink during medieval times. Pretty well everything was disgusting then by modern standards. Just look up leather tanning.


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Posted 28 May 2017 - 08:15

I made some IG ink last year and stored it in a small jam jar in a cupboard and just found it again!
I tried it with a G dip nib and it's better than when I first made it, no mould either!
I made two batches, slightly different ingredients and they both seem to be fine.
I have a good stasch of oak galls and plan on crunching them up and getting them soaking ready to try again but this time I'm gonna boil where as last time I didn't.
Any recommendations or advise would be welcomed.





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