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#1 Moonshae

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 14:50

Hi all,

I got the set and read through the teacher's instruction guide, but it doesn't say anything about how to actually practice. Are you supposed to master the parallel downstrokes before moving on to the upward curves? Are you supposed to do several exercises each day?

I started using a French-ruled notebook because I could tell that the number of rows on each page would not be sufficient practice for me. I'd have filled a few pages of just the most basic exercises, and I'm still rather inconsistent. I have seen some improvement, but it's rather tedious doing row after row of parallel downstrokes, then rows of upstrokes. The book says that children learning should not be allowed to write any other way, but I haven't even gotten to letters other than i, so I have to fall back to my regular Palmer-based handwriting for anything else.

Any advice on a learning plan would be most welcome! I want to learn this, but I want it to be at least a little pleasurable in the process, not all tedium.

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 15:55

Out of interest, do you have the ambition to follow the method's instructions on Movement?
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#3 Moonshae

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Posted 22 April 2017 - 01:41

I'm giving it a fair shot. That has been part of the challenge, honestly...trying to teach my arm to do what I used to do with my hand, and with such small movements, has been frustratingly inconsistent.

 

My ultimate goal isn't really to have perfect Spencerian handwriting, but at least to have handwriting that looks nice and is relatively consistent. Typically, when I undertake a project, I see it through. I'm finishing grad school in 3 weeks, so I anticipate having free time that I wish to continue to devote to self improvement.


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Posted 22 April 2017 - 07:32

Thank you.

One approach is that you diligently go through the whole package, book by book, page by page, line by line. This takes some perseverance, but there are many people who have done this too, and from what I have seen they usually ended up with a much improved and rather nice hand.

However, most of them did not in the process develop the Spencerian writing technique. Also, many of the people I've seen who completed the books, did not seem to have come to grasp that the script is in fact a system, built from Principle strokes.

If these two aspects are important to you, the exercises that focus on exclusively that should be a godsent for you. Don't view them as tedious drills that keep you from the good stuff, they *are* the good stuff. That said, I think it takes additional drills that are not in the Mott Media package, to really get the Movement part down, and, quite frankly, I think there are also clearer ways to teach people the Principles thing.

Myself I'm a Movement and Principles fanatic, and have been working on this for about a year now, starting with the Principles, now working on Movement. (This is BTW the wrong order but never mind.) I have the package too, but I use the books only as a collection of letter combinations, words, and sentences. I practise on my own paper, and, for instance, I do not try to fit letters into square boxes. I think the boxes from Plate II of The New Spencerian Compendium are much better suited for this if you really need that kind of guidance.

If you don't care so much for the Movement part, then at least work the Principles, also if you're only going to use the Mott Media workbooks.

Hope this helps!
~ Alexander

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Posted 03 May 2017 - 04:32

+1 +2 @rednaxela. Building muscle memory takes time and efforts. I struggled thru the exercises. All five books and some more. However I was not satisfied after 1 yr of efforts. Learning italic helped me more as I find it more suited me.

I am relearning Spencerian and English round hand now, after 2 yrs of italics.

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 23:12

I just received the Spencerian  book and notebooks yesterday -- I need to be able to read my writing. I've been doing everything by computer for so long my handwriting has become illegible. If this just helps me with that, I'll be happy.



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Posted 20 May 2017 - 21:43

I have to fall back to my regular Palmer-based handwriting for anything else.
 

I'm guessing it's not actually Palmer.  Palmer is thin and slanty,  a business hand, a faster, simpler, descendant of Spencerian.  The two look the same to the passing eye.  

I was taught D'Nealian in grade school.  Very round, circular, similar to English Roundhand.

As for practice, I have yet to master the slants or ovals.  However, don't skip them entirely.  Dedicate an inch or two to each at the beginning of your practice, just to "limber up".  It's like stretching before practice.  A bit of shading the page, or scrap paper, just to get used to the motion.  It's actually one of the directions in many of the guidebooks.

And for when I'm bored, I practice writing the word "minimum".  I need a new word...



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Posted 22 May 2017 - 16:53

Try 'bookshelf'.
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