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Yep, I Did It--Ebay

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#1 Ronz9

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Posted 15 April 2017 - 20:02

You ever done something and almost instantly thought, damn that was dumb?  How about doing that twice within hours?  Yeah, me too.  Most recently on eBay.  Went there just to look and came away with less money and owning...something.  It'd be great if i knew what I bought.  I've come here for years and watched members display understanding of all ,manner of writing instruments that borders on obsession.  OK, more than obsession.  And it would've been just wonderful if I'd thought to post all this before buying anything.  But i didn't, very unfortunately. Hopefully someone can clue me in on what I now possibly own.

Buys were on different continents within days of one another.  I'll label them Pen 1 and Pen 2.  Both were sold as Hommage A' WG Mozart editions.  I got my doubts, as they say.

 

Pros:  Both came with blank "Your Personal MB Guide".  Printing is so simple I don't know if anyone can tell the validity of any printed guides that carry no dealer sale stamp.  Neither of mine did, and they look identical.  All engraving on both pens is very precise.  Both are the smaller length / breadth MB the company still sells commemorating Wolfgang.  The MB name engraved on the gold bands shows great precision, same with the nibs in all respects, as far as I can see.  Every place either pen could be finished shows as very well polished and detailed.  The clips are well detailed and polished to within an inch of their lives.  Both white snow caps are precisely edged and appear to be dead centered and correct in size. Both clip rings carry letter / number combinations that appear to be laser engraved.  Definitely not stamped or force cut into the metal somehow. Precise numbers and letters, country of origin, etc.  And one even shows PIX with a trademark inside the clip.

 

Cons: Here to find out.

 

Just nothing sticks out--if anything did, I wouldn't be here begging for help from folks far more knowledgeable than I am.  All this is in the poorly shot pictures attached (sorry about the quality).

 

Pen 1--MB 1 in the pictures--is all black with gold and came in a beautiful box with an unopened CD (straight from Best Buy no doubt) and two layers for pen presentation.  The top layer is for a single pen with the same "Homm A WGA" print found on the outer box.  Lifting that tray reveals another tray with spaces for 4 more pens of like size. See pictures.

Serial number is XI 1066978.  GERMANY is opposite the SN.  Nothing else on the ring in between those 2.  Inside the clip is smoothly polished and finished, but no trademark, no PIX, etc  While I know that's not a death sentence, I'd feel much better with it there.

 

Pen 2--MB 2 in the pictures--is black, with gold rings and with a silver cap. The cap looks real to me--carefully cut and carries silver stamps you can see in the pictures. It's cap ring shows serial number of BP 1018350 with METAL 2 opposite.  In between and directly opposite the gold clip is FRANCE (which is engraved lower than the S/N or METAL 2--so low that it's letters almost touch the bottom of the clip ring--but the fonts and engraving look exactly the same as the other two on each side of it). And inside the clip is a precisely raised PIX in italic type flowing script followed by a microscopic circled R for trademark.  PIX is raised, not engraved or etched.  I had to loupe it to see it.

 

If anyone can tell me what I own, I'm guessing they're on here.  I could walk down the Strip here in Las Vegas to one of the two MB stores and talk to someone--they're exceedingly nice and helpful to the extent they know.  Verifying MB doesn't seem to be one of those things.

 

Pls take a look at the pictures and any help is greatly (greatly) appreciated.  Either way, thanks for years of happy reading and amazing insight.

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  • MB 1 box.JPG
  • Possible MB 1 and 2.JPG
  • MB 1 Box Again.JPG
  • MB 1 Germany Etched.JPG
  • MB 1 Lower Layer.JPG
  • MB 1 Germany Etched.JPG
  • MB 1 Nib.JPG
  • MB 1 Serial Number and Under Nib.JPG
  • MB 2 Silver Cap Markings.JPG
  • MB 2 Serial Number and Nib.JPG
  • MB 2 Nib.JPG
  • MB 1 Upper Layer.JPG


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#2 CS388

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Posted 16 April 2017 - 03:25

As far as we can ever tell, from pictures, I'd say they look good.

 

How do they write?



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Posted 16 April 2017 - 07:34

Both pens and the box looks genuine.


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#4 Chrissy

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Posted 16 April 2017 - 08:30

These both look like  Montblanc Hommage à Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart pens to me. They are the smallest pens in the Montblanc range. They are ideal as purse pens, but they are so small that they only take cartridges, so you can frequently obtain them on eBay for good prices.

The one with the silver cap is a Solitaire doué style Mozart.  :)



#5 Ronz9

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Posted 16 April 2017 - 16:41

Thanks to Chrissy and CS 388 from London and penparadise from Bremen for putting my mind as ease.  They both write beautifully--but I didn't want to be thinking, wow, this is a really great fake.  Now I don't have to.  writing with MB Toffee Brown in Pen 1 and Oyster Grey in the Doue.  (See how expert I am now?  I can just throw out that single word Doue like I have the remotest idea where it came from in MB lore).

 

For the record, I paid $299 as the high and only bidder at the minimum for Pen 1 on 29 March (I think the box & the $5.99 Best Buy CD tripped me up), and $327.01 for the Solitaire Doue Pen 2--the high among 13 bidders placing 26 bids on 30 March.

 

Hate to admit Pen 1, but someone once told me you can never learn from mistakes you attempt to hide.

 

Thanks again.



#6 Ronz9

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Posted 16 April 2017 - 19:24

Just to completely clarify--I've no clue how these two examples write.  I was afraid to fill or dip either until I got the experts here to educate me.  My engineer daughter has a few MB (definitely not like members here), most of which are this smaller size (she's 4'10" so.....).  She has one nib that seems exactly like Pen 1, but dried ink covers the number at the end of it.  She won't let me clean her pens.  Some fellow convinced her he's an expert at it (but wouldn't comment on my 2 buys.  ??).  She has two others that seem very close to the nib in Pen 2, but not exact duplicates--the one with grey ink, which I'd never seen before.  Both write as well as any pens I've held.  So i'm assuming these will duplicate their quality, especially now that I know they're genuine MB.  But I don't know that for a fact.

 

I could just envision a gold member coming in and saying, "are you certain your Doue writes well?  I have eleven of them and they're (bleep) personified....you're dumber than you portray yourself."

 

So, just in case, I have no idea about these two.  But they look greaaaaaat.



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Posted 17 April 2017 - 11:43

Excellent. Pleased that they write well.

 

Not got a Mozart, myself - but have handled and used one. I thought they'd be too small for my daily needs, so I bought differently. But I was surprised how easy it was to write with one and was very impressed with the build quality and writing experience. Who knows, I may end up with one, some day.

 

It doesn't matter what others think, as long as they're right for you.

Congratulations. You have two very nice pens.

 

Enjoy.



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Posted 21 April 2017 - 15:07

When a Mozart 114 is posted (it's threaded!), it provides the length to use the pen just as you might a 144.

 

PM me if you'd like to add a bordeaux Mozart to your little (pun intended) collection.

 

Fred



#9 Ronz9

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Posted 04 June 2017 - 05:10

These both look like  Montblanc Hommage à Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart pens to me. They are the smallest pens in the Montblanc range. They are ideal as purse pens, but they are so small that they only take cartridges, so you can frequently obtain them on eBay for good prices.

The one with the silver cap is a Solitaire doué style Mozart.  :)

I was hoping to buy a converter for this pen--but then I read Chrissy telling me they only take cartridges.  Since they're are so small, does MB have more than one size of ink cartridge?  I notice on their site, MB only lists one type (that I can see).  And no chance there are ink converters out there?   Zero?



#10 mhsvz

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 03:52

I was hoping to buy a converter for this pen--but then I read Chrissy telling me they only take cartridges.  Since they're are so small, does MB have more than one size of ink cartridge?  I notice on their site, MB only lists one type (that I can see).  And no chance there are ink converters out there?   Zero?


Templar mini-converter will fit in the Mozart. Link below.

http://templarink.com/index.html





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