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#61 tamiya

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 07:33

So far I've pumped Petrol into a few pens other than Lamy, most write a lot darker than from a M Lamy even though line width is similar. Some have also since evaporated to about 1/2.

Haven't yet tried it in an F or EF.

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 09:26

It's a nice ink, you should use it. :)

It's a lot more interesting than "black" for sure. Come to think of it, it's probably darker than quite a few blacks from some other ink companies...

Dunno about other countries but if anybody is seriously looking at buying Petrol when supposedly all bottles are sold out, keep your eyes open for the Petrol gift set - contains a big bottle plus pack of carts plus the matching Safari & convertor, all for price of bottle & pen. Even at RRP, you're not paying aftermarket premium.

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Posted 17 August 2017 - 01:45

Excellent ink. I use it in a Pelikan M205 xf, and that's a felicitous combination. 



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Posted 04 September 2017 - 20:47

Interesting comparison with Noodler's Aircorp Blue-Black, which I already have:

http://www.analogexp...you-before.html

 

Apparently the two are quite similar.  Which is nice, as I have a Lamy Safari Petrol in the mail and was looking for the matching ink, but instead will probably use other dark teal/turquoise options.


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Posted 05 September 2017 - 03:56

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 04:12

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Excellent giveaway! Too bad I have far to go in post count. Really, Lamy should just make more of this ink available--it's not like it's difficult for them.

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 13:13

Well, after looking high and low for Lamy Petrol bottles and cartridges, I got a bottle at a recent pen show and also 5 boxes of cartridges during my recent trip to Rome.  All excited, I washed my Lamy Safari Petrol pen and stuck a cartridge in.  Instant disappointment :(

 

It's very slightly feathery compared to other similar color inks I've tried, no sheen to speak of except on Tomoe River, and the color itself is almost a dead ringer for my Noodler's Aircorp Blue Black but a lot more matte.  Like Montblanc Midnight Blue in texture and look but with Noodler's ACBB color.  Interestingly both of these inks have a similar property for water resistance: a dark black-gray line remains after washing.

 

For sheen, I much prefer Organics Studio "Walden Pond Blue", which is very slightly more on the blue side compared to the Lamy Petrol and sheens like crazy.

 

Lamy Petrol (and Noodler's Aircorp Blue Black) are both dark green-blacks with some teal element and are both significantly more green than:

- J. Herbin's Emerald of Chivor

- Organics Studio Walden Pond Blue
- Pilot Iroshizuku Ku-Jaku

- Montblanc "Diamond Blue"

- Noodler's "Prime of the Commons"

 

(The above are the colors I have personally tested and have side-by-side on the same paper in my testing notebook).

 

Lamy Petrol makes a matte line and reminds me the most my Montblanc IG Midnight Blue, before the latter has had much time to change color (and is of course not as green to begin with).  But both are pretty dry inks comparatively in terms of nib lubrication, so while my Lamy 1.1 nib was gliding on paper with Organics Stuidio Walden, it feels rougher with Petrol, even though I can see that the ink flow with Petrol is good--it pools up nicely (though no sheen).

 

My full Petrol bottle and most of the cartridge boxes will probably end up on some classifieds, which is disappointing as I hoped it was the color for me (I hoped it would be a bit more blue than Noodler's AC Blue-Black and with some sheen or at least not as matte).


Edited by Intensity, 03 October 2017 - 13:23.

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 13:56

Have left it for weeks in some pens... Petrol looks nearly black.

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Posted 18 October 2017 - 11:23

Excellent review. Especially your utilization of various instruments on various papers. Not sure whether or not I like it because of its "teaniness" but it is bluer than most teals I know. Also, I can only underline and capitalize all of your wordings about Lamy's conventions here at home. Jeez, if they don't want to import somewhere in the world, I can live with that but they should still offer their own stuff to their own people!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I.e., their LE inks in bottles are not sold in Germany.

 

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Lamy doesnot  offer Petrol ink in bottles (s. Lamy Website.de). As an Alternative I used Pelikan 4001 dark green: greatest similarity - In my Eyes

 

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Posted 18 October 2017 - 16:15

Excellent review. Especially your utilization of various instruments on various papers. Not sure whether or not I like it because of its "teaniness" but it is bluer than most teals I know. Also, I can only underline and capitalize all of your wordings about Lamy's conventions here at home. Jeez, if they don't want to import somewhere in the world, I can live with that but they should still offer their own stuff to their own people!!!!!!!!!!!

Lamy doesnot  offer Petrol ink in bottles (s. Lamy Website.de). As an Alternative I used Pelikan 4001 dark green: greatest similarity - In my Eyes

 

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Well, they do offer that stuff in bottles, it's just that they don't do so in Germany. I got my bottle outside of Germany.


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Posted 18 October 2017 - 16:55

Well, after looking high and low for Lamy Petrol bottles and cartridges, I got a bottle at a recent pen show and also 5 boxes of cartridges during my recent trip to Rome.  All excited, I washed my Lamy Safari Petrol pen and stuck a cartridge in.  Instant disappointment :(
 
It's very slightly feathery compared to other similar color inks I've tried, no sheen to speak of except on Tomoe River, and the color itself is almost a dead ringer for my Noodler's Aircorp Blue Black but a lot more matte.  Like Montblanc Midnight Blue in texture and look but with Noodler's ACBB color.  Interestingly both of these inks have a similar property for water resistance: a dark black-gray line remains after washing.
 
For sheen, I much prefer Organics Studio "Walden Pond Blue", which is very slightly more on the blue side compared to the Lamy Petrol and sheens like crazy.
 
Lamy Petrol (and Noodler's Aircorp Blue Black) are both dark green-blacks with some teal element and are both significantly more green than:
- J. Herbin's Emerald of Chivor
- Organics Studio Walden Pond Blue
- Pilot Iroshizuku Ku-Jaku
- Montblanc "Diamond Blue"
- Noodler's "Prime of the Commons"
 
(The above are the colors I have personally tested and have side-by-side on the same paper in my testing notebook).
 
Lamy Petrol makes a matte line and reminds me the most my Montblanc IG Midnight Blue, before the latter has had much time to change color (and is of course not as green to begin with).  But both are pretty dry inks comparatively in terms of nib lubrication, so while my Lamy 1.1 nib was gliding on paper with Organics Stuidio Walden, it feels rougher with Petrol, even though I can see that the ink flow with Petrol is good--it pools up nicely (though no sheen).
 
My full Petrol bottle and most of the cartridge boxes will probably end up on some classifieds, which is disappointing as I hoped it was the color for me (I hoped it would be a bit more blue than Noodler's AC Blue-Black and with some sheen or at least not as matte).


Big disappointment for me, too. I can't stand it in any of the pens I've tried. And I missed the original run and had to pay double price. :(

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Posted 22 October 2017 - 19:22

Well, they do offer that stuff in bottles, it's just that they don't do so in Germany. I got my bottle outside of Germany.


This is the strangest thing to me. A German company, not offering all of its products in ... Germany. One of the great mysteries of life I guess 😉

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Posted 22 October 2017 - 20:15

German Lamy costumers are scratching their heads as well. Lamy may be responsible for many bald people in Germany.



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Posted 02 November 2017 - 18:22

So I keep persevering at getting to like Petrol ink.  It's growing on me. Particularly because I finally found the pen I like it with (combination of Lamy Safari Petrol + wide 1.5mm Lamy italic nib).  With a wide nib and good flow, there's a better chance of getting the sheen to show up, although on anything but Tomoe River, there are only slight hints of sheen.  It's not that you see metallic reflections, it's more like you see a color shift toward dark magenta where it pools up.  I've finally pulled out my Tomoe River notebooks and tried Petrol on the white paper.  Ahh, here's that sheen, finally highly visible:

 

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Honestly, if this ink would sheen like that on "normal" high quality fountain pen-friendly paper, I would LOVE it.  As it is, you get the most interesting behavior on Tomoe River.  The sheen has a rose gold metallic appearance to it, quite unique.  On other paper, it's just a vague shift toward dark magenta.  Still, very cool on Tomoe River!


Edited by Intensity, 02 November 2017 - 18:23.

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Posted 04 November 2017 - 19:51

Added a comparison of Petrol to Noodler's Aircorp Blue Black here:

http://www.fountainp...-picture-heavy/


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Posted 07 November 2017 - 22:43

Added a comparison of Petrol to Noodler's Aircorp Blue Black here:

http://www.fountainp...-picture-heavy/

 

This is why I don't care for Noodler's Inks. My Air-Corps Blue Black looks nothing like yours. Mine is greener and blacker. And neither of ours looks like that of a friend of mine who has it, which looks more tealish than mine. And those three look nothing like the ACBB of one of my co-workers, which leans more genuinely blue-black.

 

Same problem with Australian Roses. I had one shade that I liked, but I'd learned my lesson. I got samples periodically until the "right" shade turned up again.







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