At Least You Get The Cap

[mitto]

It is a 51 bacause it has a 51 cap.

 

http://m.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-PARKER-51-FOUNTAIN-PEN-1-10-16K-GOLD-FILLED-CAP-/182488552325?hash=item2a7d2a5385%3Ag%3AkZoAAOSwol5YvaQR

[mitto]

And what is this one from the same seller? Strange hood tip.

 

 

 

http://m.ebay.com/itm/PARKER-51-FOUNTAIN-PEN-LUSTRALOY-CAP-BROWN-COLOR-AEROMETRIC-FILL-/182491852500?hash=item2a7d5caed4%3Ag%3ABFQAAOSwTM5Yysod&_trkparms=pageci%253A851b8740-0d83-11e7-95f5-74dbd180b80b%257Cparentrq%253Aec604bec15a0a548a1bf9f86fffcb790%257Ciid%253A14

Edited March 20, 2017 by mitto

[escribo]

It is a 51 bacause it has a 51 cap.

 

http://m.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-PARKER-51-FOUNTAIN-PEN-1-10-16K-GOLD-FILLED-CAP-/182488552325?hash=item2a7d2a5385%3Ag%3AkZoAAOSwol5YvaQR

 

1. Parker made 16K caps? Obviously 16K as an alloy can be produced as easily as 14K or whatever else, I've just never seen anything in 16K before - ever.

2. Is it me, the camera lens, or is that pen bent just a tad?

[mitto]

1. Parker made 16K caps? Obviously 16K as an alloy can be produced as easily as 14K or whatever else, I've just never seen anything in 16K before - ever.

2. Is it me, the camera lens, or is that pen bent just a tad?

Not bent just a tad. It looks as if its backbone is totally broken. Lol.

[escribo]

Understatement humor, learned from the English.

[JotterAddict62]

That's one of those banana pens you see Wearever.

[parkergeo]

Does that second pen have the hood from a standard Parker 21 over the tubular nib from a 21 Super or a 51?

[mitto]

Does that second pen have the hood from a standard Parker 21 over the tubular nib from a 21 Super or a 51?

May be you are right. Hood looks to be from a 21 and nib feed from either Super 21 or a 51.

[ceejaybee]

May be you are right. Hood looks to be from a 21 and nib feed from either Super 21 or a 51.

I think I need enlightening - what's wrong with the P51 hood?

[corgicoupe]

It reveals too much of the feed & nib, much like the 21.

Edited March 21, 2017 by corgicoupe

[mitto]

The bigger opening at the tip for feed and nib.

[parkergeo]

I looked at the photo again and the original impression of a large gap is artifactual due to shadowing/reflections. Zoom in and there is a tight ink-stained border defining the normal tight fit around the feed.

[mitto]

1. Parker made 16K caps? Obviously 16K as an alloy can be produced as easily as 14K or whatever else, I've just never seen anything in 16K before - ever.

2. Is it me, the camera lens, or is that pen bent just a tad?

 

Yes, there were 1/10 16k gold filled caps for the P51s.

[inkstainedruth]

Yes, there were 1/10 16k gold filled caps for the P51s.

 

Yes indeed -- I have one on a Cedar Blue 51 Vac with an EF nib I picked up last year. Currently the pen is sporting some vintage Quink Microfilm Black.

As for the pen in the original listing, well, I see it as just the Universe balancing itself out -- after all, a couple of years ago I got the other Cedar Blue 51 Vac for $10 US because it had the cap of some 3rd tier pen on it (and a late Mk II Burgundy Aero for $15 at a different booth in the same antiques mall which was labelled as a Frontier; anyone have a need for a Parker Frontier cap?). In both cases the correct caps cost more than the pens themselves did....

And a couple of years before that I got another 51 Vac on eBay (a UK-made one) for the starting price (plus free shipping!) -- nobody else bid on it. It had a chip on the underside of the hood, and the cap from a US made 51 Special. $5 for a replacement hood at my first pen show, and then a couple of judicious trades to get a more "correct" 51 cap for the pen, plus $20 to Danny Fudge to replace the diaphragm.

So, has anyone yet determined what the pen in question actually *is*? (As for the 2nd eBay link, I think I was watching that listing, but decided -- along with a couple of other listings -- that I couldn't tell well enough from the photos if it really was Cordovan Brown, and decided to hold off on bidding; and then I forgot to check again. Even if it's not Cordovan, that's a good price on a 51....

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[corgicoupe]

Is Cordovan brown a sought after color?

[AL01]

Oh yeah. I remember Parker 51s having lever fillers back in the day. Jus' kidding... (I wasn't alive during then,)

[mitto]

Yes indeed -- I have one on a Cedar Blue 51 Vac with an EF nib I picked up last year. Currently the pen is sporting some vintage Quink Microfilm Black.

As for the pen in the original listing, well, I see it as just the Universe balancing itself out -- after all, a couple of years ago I got the other Cedar Blue 51 Vac for $10 US because it had the cap of some 3rd tier pen on it (and a late Mk II Burgundy Aero for $15 at a different booth in the same antiques mall which was labelled as a Frontier; anyone have a need for a Parker Frontier cap?). In both cases the correct caps cost more than the pens themselves did....

And a couple of years before that I got another 51 Vac on eBay (a UK-made one) for the starting price (plus free shipping!) -- nobody else bid on it. It had a chip on the underside of the hood, and the cap from a US made 51 Special. $5 for a replacement hood at my first pen show, and then a couple of judicious trades to get a more "correct" 51 cap for the pen, plus $20 to Danny Fudge to replace the diaphragm.

So, has anyone yet determined what the pen in question actually *is*? (As for the 2nd eBay link, I think I was watching that listing, but decided -- along with a couple of other listings -- that I couldn't tell well enough from the photos if it really was Cordovan Brown, and decided to hold off on bidding; and then I forgot to check again. Even if it's not Cordovan, that's a good price on a 51....

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

Most likeky a burgundy - pen at the second link. It is an aero pen.