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Hello

 

I have a Pelikan 100 nib that is marked "C". I tried to find some information on this imprint but without luck.

 

Can you explain what does the letter "C" stand for?

 

Thank you

 

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I have no idea what your C or my K means.

 

My 100n, has K on the nib besides the fancy old styled Pelikan script on the nib. There is no mark on the body or the cap which was normal????? for Pelikan 'often/mostly' before 1954. At least on my Ibis and early '50's 400's. (In one has a nib with both the size mark on the nib and barrel, I think it's transitional to 1954-5 of the 400n.) Both my 100n and Ibis are post war.

 

My 100n is right foot oblique....with a superflex nib. Easy Full Flex, the first stage of superflex...before the Wet Noodle.

Mine can go 5 X but I strive to keep it at 4 X or under, in I don't want to spend $$$$ getting a sprung nib fixed...and more than likely not quite as good as it once was.

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I thought that 'K' was meant to indicate 'kugel' or 'ball'/rounded tip, no?

 

But I'm afraid that I have no idea what a 'C' might mean :-(

 

Edited to add:

I have now found a website that is about Pelikan History.

Their page on nibs...

 

https://www.pelikan-collectibles.com/en/Pelikan/Nibs/Nib-units-since-1929/index.html

 

...shows some Palladium nibs from 1938-40 (when gold was a restricted material) that appear to be marked with a 'C'.

 

Although this marking is not explained anywhere on the website, from the context I suspect that the 'C' imprint MIGHT indicate that the nibs were made in Switzerland.

 

With respect to a 'K' marking, I hope that this...

 

https://www.pelikan-collectibles.com/en/Pelikan/Nibs/index.html

 

...page on the same website may be useful :-)

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My DM nib is medium width and a nail's nail D nib.

 

They said the nib of the 400 and the 100n was the same, but the feed is not. On my post war 100n....green ink window...I have the three rill/comb feed. My 400's the four rill feed.

Great links... :notworthy1: :thumbup:

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In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

 

 

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Although this marking is not explained anywhere on the website, from the context I suspect that the 'C' imprint MIGHT indicate that the nibs were made in Switzerland.

 

 

I think it is a sign which obviously marked the material supplier of the metal, allowing Pelikan to determine the origin of the starting material.

 

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Normally, nib makers has to press gold to a predetermined depth with a rolling machine...even if it was delivered in a roll of gold. So that would be stamped on after the nib is finished or near finished.

After pressing, it is stamped out.

In as far as I know at that time, Pelikan didn't mark the nib with the size.....................actually sort of dumb, to mark the body and then go hunting for a nib to fit or to be made to fit.

In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

 

 

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I have a 100N with a small B and if I'm right there was also a nib with a D: http://estilograficas.mforos.mobi/1176621/11462064-pelikan-100n-del-periodo-1934-38/

 

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We can add A on PenThing's Ibis https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/319660-pelikan-ibis-nib-marked-a/?do=findComment&comment=3800828

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I can understand the D...in I have one. One wouldn't want to grab one of them by mistake.

The Nail's nail.

 

The B I don't know....but Madrid if I'm not mistaken had a Pelikan factory....so did Italy and a few other countries.

What would B mean in Spanish?

 

Are there other markings on Spanish Pelikan nibs of that era, and are they common?

In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

 

 

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

 

 

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That's a new one on me. I couldn't even begin to fathom a guess. A neat little oddity though.

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I can understand the D...in I have one. One wouldn't want to grab one of them by mistake.

The Nail's nail.

 

The B I don't know....but Madrid if I'm not mistaken had a Pelikan factory....so did Italy and a few other countries.

What would B mean in Spanish?

 

Are there other markings on Spanish Pelikan nibs of that era, and are they common?

what happened to said factories?

I know that there was Pelikan model - Primapenna - that was made in Milan years ago.

But now? Have the factories relocated to Malaysia?

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Hi,

all the high value pens (eg. Classic series, Souverän Series) are produced in Germany (Peine / Vöhrum near Hanover).

Also the pens Pelikano / Twist incl. the nibs are produced in Germany.

 

Some cheaper models as the Primapenna for Pelikan Milan probably came from other companies.

 

As far as I know, the old foreign branches as in Madrid were established for sales and distribution.

Maybe there was a final production of inks or colors.

Not for pen parts or nibs.

 

Danzig / Gdansk is the one with many myths about a pen production.

I think in Gdansk was only an assembly of parts with a little bit other shape to be able to say it's a Gdansk production (to save taxes).

 

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Madrid/Portugal overlarge Pelikans were made there....I don't have any they were too expensive for my wallet and I don't chase huge pens.

In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

 

 

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

 

 

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Facts will kill myths and the magnum is not a big pen at all.

Thanks.

In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

 

 

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

 

 

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