How Does Nib And Feed Work? Myths?

[Estycollector]

Using a variety of vintage Esterbrook dip pen nibs has taught me to appreciate more modern designs, but more than that, the human element for how the nib is able t to perform and the variability of results that are due to the paper used.

 

Given the link posted concerning what occurs when Lamy nib are changed out to the plastic, Esterbrook designed nib that stay intact with the feed is a better concept.

[Pen Engineer]

I think those two attributes are orthogonal, and so purporting that there is a logical equivalence is "wrong".

 

Put another way, I think there are any non-zero number of nibs that would fit in any of the quadrants in the chart below:

[td]

[/th][th] Dry	Wet
Fine	[/td]
Broad

 

I'm not personally interested in the science or mechanics of what makes a nib "wet", though, especially if and when the feed is considered a logically separate thing from the nib itself.

 

feed ≠ nib ≠ pen ≠ user experience

 

feed and nib are two separat things. You can throw one in one direction and the other in the opposite and there will be no qualms.

 

And I agree, since they are two different pieces of the universe, per se, their logical equivalence is absolutely wrong!

 

However, a nib is useful as an individual, stand alone item, albeit, a nib holder is useful. For a feed needs a section and reservoir to be of any use... unless, you squash its tip with a hammer and feather it out a bit... but then, it's a nib, sort off, isn't it?

[sebastel23]

possibly a question of interest in this context -- is the required ink flow (in terms of amount per time) different enough for narrow nibs compared to broad nibs, to design different feeds?

from my own observations, not ... however, according to reports posted in a different thread, the "standard" feeds for montblanc 149 seem not meet the requirements of the 149 calligraphy nib.

 

might be a matter of the actual amounts of ink we need to consider here.

 

@pen_ingeneer: your blog gave me a lot of joy while reading. though i'm only a software engineer, still kind of engineer, and it was a delight to follow your thoughts. thanks!

 

cheers,

sebastian

[Pen Engineer]

possibly a question of interest in this context -- is the required ink flow (in terms of amount per time) different enough for narrow nibs compared to broad nibs, to design different feeds?

from my own observations, not ... however, according to reports posted in a different thread, the "standard" feeds for montblanc 149 seem not meet the requirements of the 149 calligraphy nib.

 

might be a matter of the actual amounts of ink we need to consider here.

 

@pen_ingeneer: your blog gave me a lot of joy while reading. though i'm only a software engineer, still kind of engineer, and it was a delight to follow your thoughts. thanks!

 

cheers,

sebastian

feeds "should" deliver enough surplus to cater for a broad nib and still manage the reduced amount for fine nibs. After all, how many nanoliters per minutes are we talking about?

 

Re Montblanc: it may have to do with the shape and mechanics of the nib... perhaps?

[Pen Engineer]

possibly a question of interest in this context -- is the required ink flow (in terms of amount per time) different enough for narrow nibs compared to broad nibs, to design different feeds?

from my own observations, not ... however, according to reports posted in a different thread, the "standard" feeds for montblanc 149 seem not meet the requirements of the 149 calligraphy nib.

 

might be a matter of the actual amounts of ink we need to consider here.

 

@pen_ingeneer: your blog gave me a lot of joy while reading. though i'm only a software engineer, still kind of engineer, and it was a delight to follow your thoughts. thanks!

 

cheers,

sebastian

ever thought about a micro processor controlled feed?