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Ink Review: Monteverde Horizon Blue
#21
Posted 24 August 2017 - 04:04
Now it's in a shoot out between it and Robert Osters School Blue for my all time favourite true blue.
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#22
Posted 15 November 2017 - 19:54
Finally, close enough for Government Work.
I can now use my PS cartridges........ I have 3-4.
German vintage '50-70 semi-flex stubs and those in oblique give the real thing in On Demand line variation. Modern Oblique is a waste of money for a shadow of line variation. Being too lazy to Hunt for affordable vintage oblique pens, lets you 'hunt' for line variation instead of having it.
www.nibs.com/blog/nibster-writes/nibs-germany & https://www.peter-bo...cts/nib-systems,
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#23
Posted 15 November 2017 - 20:09
How much does the Horizon Blue stain pen parts?
#24
Posted 15 November 2017 - 21:17
Doesn't seem to be staining or clinging to this Jinhao converter after like 5 months. Also re-photographed the paper swatches comparing it to Penman Sapphire and Diamine Blue Velvet, and they still all look exactly the same to me. I probably won't use my bottle of PPS as it probably doesn't behave as well, and seems to still be gaining value. My mistake not selling only if the purists paying $50 a bottle do decide that one of the current clones is good enough and stop looking for the real thing.
#25
Posted 15 November 2017 - 22:26

Monteverde really nailed both color and performance on its new ink series. I love red velvet.
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#26
Posted 15 November 2017 - 22:26
I have a couple of LE MB bottles that I could sell for more than they are 'worth'.
I've some of that Christmas brown....that feathers much more than wished.
Diamond isn't quite as good as I thought it was either when I grabbed a second bottle quickly.
Decisions to dither on................sell or not...........laziness has it's own rewards.
German vintage '50-70 semi-flex stubs and those in oblique give the real thing in On Demand line variation. Modern Oblique is a waste of money for a shadow of line variation. Being too lazy to Hunt for affordable vintage oblique pens, lets you 'hunt' for line variation instead of having it.
www.nibs.com/blog/nibster-writes/nibs-germany & https://www.peter-bo...cts/nib-systems,
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#27
Posted 09 March 2018 - 07:27
I have three separate lots of PPS, two original in bottle (one almost untouched except for tiny samples to verify the colour), and one from a set of cartridges (100, I think) that I bought from Pokydady a few years ago.
All three have the same colour, so I am confident the colour is accurate.
Dave, that was an incredible find from Pokydady in Asia somewhere. I think I ended up getting 4-5,000 of those PPS cartridges after we all inspected them for authenticity, and especially for a while since he was giving double lots for the same price because they had dehydrated, and didn't want anyone to get half as much!!!
Distill water hydrated those puppies with a syringe up to the original fill line, and the cartridge itself was good to go in a Parker pen, or what I mostly did was extract the rehydrated back into glass jars and the small sample screw top vials. I think I got about 500 of them hydrated, and got bored, and already have more than a lifetime from those and my 11 remaining full bottles. He had Penman Emerald too--another ink unlike any other.
Anyway, maybe I'll check this Horizon to see how close I think it is.
#28
Posted 12 March 2018 - 16:00
This is a comparison I did a few weeks ago comparing MHV and PPS
Two pens, Sailor 1911 Large (Naginata Medium Fine nib) filled with Monteverde Horizon Blue and Jinhao 159 (#6 Medium nib) filled with Parker Penman Sapphire. The Jinhao was adjusted to have the same degree of wetness as the Sailor.
The paper is Rhodia A5 notebook (obviously written on the other side as well).
I interleaved the lines of MHB and PPS so you could truly see how similar they are. Colour is the same, as is shading and sheening, and the same minimal degree of spreading. Obviously on Rhodia there is no feathering or bleeding.
Thank you, dcwaites! I've been using MV Horizon Blue since I noticed this comparison to Parker Penman Sapphire. I cannot tell the difference. For the last month or so, I've been using it in A P51 Special while using PPS in another P51. To my eye, there is no difference. Both have that special glow.
#29
Posted 13 March 2018 - 06:06
OK, I have to do this experiment now. I have to control for variables, so must use 2 new pens...probably a Lamy, same nib, same papers.
Just contemplating that some ink may be threatening "my precious" has me quite befuddled. There have been so many attempts over the years, and so many "well it's almost the same as PPS..."
Edited by SamCapote, 13 March 2018 - 06:11.
#30
Posted 13 March 2018 - 07:28
Both Sapphire and Horizon Blue look like excellent blue inks to me.
#31
Posted 13 March 2018 - 07:55
Not my favorite. I find souten to be a better true blue, and if I need it cheap, hero 233 carbon blue or noodler's liberty's elysium.
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#32
Posted 13 March 2018 - 18:35
Like Tas says, "That's that." I don't own a bottle of Penman Sapphire, but I've wanted to experience it. Looks like now I can for a fraction of the price. Order placed. I'll have a bottle of Horizon Blue here shortly.
#33
Posted 30 March 2018 - 16:12

Love the color, but it's an absolute firehose ink. I think they overdid it with the surfactant a little :/
I'll need to try it with a drier, finer pen as well.
-k
#34
Posted 30 March 2018 - 20:46
Cool, good to know. Was going to get the 90mL but this bottle is cute. Not 10mL Iroshizuku cute, but still.
I see on Jetpens that the 30mL are also filled like mine.
I've also noticed that some of the Iroshizuku inks do not come fully filled either.
#35
Posted 20 April 2018 - 17:57
Like Tas says, "That's that." I don't own a bottle of Penman Sapphire, but I've wanted to experience it. Looks like now I can for a fraction of the price. Order placed. I'll have a bottle of Horizon Blue here shortly.
This thread convinced me too. I bought a 30 ml bottle and have been using it for the last week in several pens. I like it...but the lack of sheen is a bit of a disappointment. I don't know that I had any real expectations, but I was certainly HOPING there would be some serious sheen. Well, there isn't, but it still flows great, the color is beautiful and it's cheap. I'll stick to Sailor Bung Box Hatsukoi for the same color with sheen....I can use Horizon Blue when I don't care if I get sheen or not.
#36
Posted 20 April 2018 - 19:53
I'd suggest anyone wishing the flow or sheen were maybe a little different to try the Diamine Blue Velvet. Direct from Diamine, and add a few 30mL colors that fit under the shipping threshold, and it's really not that expensive. Cool pie bottle, too.
#37
Posted 20 April 2018 - 21:26
Both PPS and MHB are low/medium sheen inks, compared to some other modern inks. You need to use a wettish pen and a low absorbence paper to get noticeable sheen.
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#38
Posted 20 April 2018 - 23:49
This thread convinced me too. I bought a 30 ml bottle and have been using it for the last week in several pens. I like it...but the lack of sheen is a bit of a disappointment. I don't know that I had any real expectations, but I was certainly HOPING there would be some serious sheen. Well, there isn't, but it still flows great, the color is beautiful and it's cheap. I'll stick to Sailor Bung Box Hatsukoi for the same color with sheen....I can use Horizon Blue when I don't care if I get sheen or not.
Well this is interesting.
Can you post some comparison scans of the two inks? I don't own any Bungubox inks, but I hear good things.
#39
Posted 03 May 2018 - 16:42
Looking for a really vibrant washable blue, and Horizon Blue has passed my tests- washed out completely after staining on cloth. Are my eyes deceiving me (wouldn't be the first) or is this nearly identical to PPS?
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