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I was excited to find some Montblanc Permanent ink, so I got a bottle of blue and some cartridges of black. The blue is amazing, by the way, I'm using it with a Lamy Al-Star, no issues there, beautiful color, normal flow. But for the (black) cartridge, I'm chose to use them on my Italix Parson's Essential, with a medium nib. I obviously washed the pen before changing the ink. But after I'm not using my pen for one or a few days, the flows stops. I need to really shake the pen, or use filter paper to convince the ink to start flowing again. Sometimes I just rage quit and get the nearest pen to write with, when I'm pressed by time. It's frustrating to spend preparing a couple of minutes every time I need to write something. Is this because the black ink is thicker? Is this issue that I'm having a normal behavior? What can I do to have a quicker flow down the nib? It never happened before with this pen, but I was only using Pelikan Royal Blue with it until now.

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I've found flow with Montblanc inks in general to be a little fussy in some of my pens. I think it's just a combination of that particular ink in the Parson's Essential.

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If the pen is a bit to the dry side anyway and you put a dry ink it that could cause your problem.

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Being an attorney who has to keep documents around til long after I'll be dead, I jumped at the chance to try MB's two permanent inks. The black was an utter disaster. I have no idea what it's made out of, but it seems to be a carbon black of some species. I tried it in the following: M400 EF (firehose); M800 F; M1000 EF; Sailor Pro-Gear EF; MB 146 F. Hard to start, would dry up quickly in the pen (but not on the page...), and just generally gave horrifying performance. If the ink won't flow correctly in pens that put ink on the page in a state of near incontinence, I start to think that there is a problem with the ink.

 

it developed a multiplicity of little spherical colonies inside of the ink, and we all know what that is.

 

I would love to hear of long-term success stories with this ink...

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Being an attorney who has to keep documents around til long after I'll be dead, I jumped at the chance to try MB's two permanent inks. The black was an utter disaster. I have no idea what it's made out of, but it seems to be a carbon black of some species. I tried it in the following: M400 EF (firehose); M800 F; M1000 EF; Sailor Pro-Gear EF; MB 146 F. Hard to start, would dry up quickly in the pen (but not on the page...), and just generally gave horrifying performance. If the ink won't flow correctly in pens that put ink on the page in a state of near incontinence, I start to think that there is a problem with the ink.

 

it developed a multiplicity of little spherical colonies inside of the ink, and we all know what that is.

 

I would love to hear of long-term success stories with this ink...

How has the performance been with Montblanc Permanent Blue?

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I would stay away from the Permanent Blue. From my memory there are multiple reports of it staining the ink window- permanently.

 

I have not had any flow/drying out issues with the Permanent Black, but I had a huge nib creep issue using it in my new 149. I swaitched to R&K now with overall success!

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I was also excited to try out Montblanc's Permanent Blue ink (in carts), as there are few either permanent or water resistant inks available in an internat'l cartridge format.

Sadly both the colour & the performance of this blue ink was disappointing. Even though my Kaweco BB stub & its feed had been set up for a very generous flow (to use very dry Pelikan blue/black carts), the MB Permanent Blue wrote extremely dry.

Not quite what I expected. :(

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