Capping A Man 200 Vs Man 100

[Fof 3]

Hi All,

 

Finally finally found a Man 200 to go with my much loved Man 100. Doesn't look or feel like its been heavily used but unlike the Man 100 when you capped it it barely makes a noise and doesn't have the distinct click of the man 100.

The question is is that the characteristic of that pen or it is worn out?

 

My graduate, centurion and exclusive all no longer have a distinctive click after years of use.

 

Yet some of my others Waterman's were like that from the start. the C/F and Perspective are two that comes to mind.

 

And is there anyway to address loose worn caps? my exclusive can't even hold the weight of the section and body anymore.

 

regards

 

Fof 3

[Left FPN]

The design mechanism is the same on 200, 100, Exclusive, Executive and modern Lady pens. Other than finding new cap inserts, they cannot be repaired. The locking mechanism comprises of 3 bars spaced 120 degrees around moulded into the cap insert. These bars snap into the ring grove adjacent to the nib...that which can corrode. If and when those plastic bars wear, the lock becomes lose and eventually fails.

[Chrissy]

I have exactly the same problem with a user grade Preface.

[Left FPN]

I have exactly the same problem with a user grade Preface.

Looking at the retaining area it is similar to the other models quoted.

[Chrissy]

It's the one thing about Waterman pens that disappoints me.

[Fof 3]

Thanks Force

I thought that you would know.

Is there any solution for this?

Does waterman repairs have a stockpile of spare inserts?

 

I'm so with Chrissy though I love my watermans but I am going to have a group of pens with worn out inserts

[Chrissy]

I've asked a couple of my usual sources for cap inserts, but have been advised that they are rarely available. I would love one for my Man 200 too.

[loulu10]

I also had an annoyingly loose cap - on my 3rd Gen Sheaffer School FP.

 

I know it's probably heresy to say this here on FPN, but I solved the problem by sticking a teeny strip of washi tape on the barrel. Cap now stays on...

[ian1964]

Force, is this the same for the Carene caps? I picked up a stunning used blue Carene and the cap appears loose compared to the brand new one I purchased. Thanks.

 

Ian

[Left FPN]

Force, is this the same for the Carene caps? I picked up a stunning used blue Carene and the cap appears loose compared to the brand new one I purchased. Thanks.

 

Ian

The Carene has a C clip, metal to metal, system. You can see the two prongs protruding from the sections brass work. The ring within the cap has a groove into which the prongs snap. With time and use the lip of the groove wears as do the prongs and thus the cap becomes loose.

 

 

[ian1964]

Thank you

[Chrissy]

I'm starting to get a bit despondent about my Waterman pens with push on caps. Perhaps I'm in a bit of a lull because I'm feeling old and I don't think I need any more pens?

[ian1964]

I know what you mean Chrissy......I was feeling the same and then bought a Lady Agatha for my wife to replace her aging Stipula Passporto..... suddenly I am in love with Waterman again .

[Left FPN]

I'm starting to get a bit despondent about my Waterman pens with push on caps. Perhaps I'm in a bit of a lull because I'm feeling old and I don't think I need any more pens?

In antiques they refer to it as comensurate with age or patina. So long as the nib is still good, cellotape the cap on. 😄

[Fof 3]

Hey Force,

 

What is the best option for loose caps when you can't get replacement or repairs?

Would a cap from a Man Rollerball or ballpoint fit on? as they are sometimes available and if not too worn, switch to the Fountain pen? loose cap on a roller or ballpoint is so much less of a problem

And Force is there anyway you look out for when you are buying so you have a better chance of having a worn out cap?

[Left FPN]

Hey Force,

 

What is the best option for loose caps when you can't get replacement or repairs?

Would a cap from a Man Rollerball or ballpoint fit on? as they are sometimes available and if not too worn, switch to the Fountain pen? loose cap on a roller or ballpoint is so much less of a problem

And Force is there anyway you look out for when you are buying so you have a better chance of having a worn out cap?

If Man 100 rollerball caps are designed along the same lines as other Waterman RB's models it will have a seal plug inside. This prevents the refill from drying out. If the cap is fitted to an FP it may damage the nib. I have never purchased a Man 100 RB so others may wish to comment.

 

I have only purchased a few Man 100's and all have been good fits. I have had a number of Man 200's but again always purchased those described as new or as new.