Jump to content

The Fountain Pen Network uses (functional) cookies. Read the FPN Privacy Policy for more info.  To remove this message, please click here to accept the use of cookies


Registration on the Fountain Pen Network

Dearest Visitor of the little Fountain Pen Nut house on the digital prairie,

Due to the enormous influx of spammers, it is no longer possible to handle valditions in the traditional way. For registrations we therefore kindly and respectfully request you to send an email with your request to our especially created email address. This email address is register at fountainpennetwork dot com. Please include your desired user name, and after validation we will send you a return email containing the validation key, normally wiithin a week.

Thank you very much in advance!
The FPN Admin Team






Photo

Noodler's Baystate Blue Alternative

noodler noodlers baystate blue bad blue heron upper ganges luxury blue periwinkle polar blue bulletproof eternal

  • Please log in to reply
37 replies to this topic

#21 Ink Stained Wretch

Ink Stained Wretch

    Donor Pen

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,354 posts
  • Location:The Wrong Side of the Inkwell

Posted 13 February 2017 - 19:28

2012-08-20-washed_001.jpg

 

I must day, your Noodler's Luxury Blue looks very different from mine. Maybe yours is a more recent batch. Mine is from maybe a year or so after that ink was introduced. When is yours from?


On a sacred quest for the perfect blue ink mixture!
ink stained wretch filling inkwell

Sponsored Content

#22 amberleadavis

amberleadavis

    Inky! En-Abe-Lawyer

  • FPN Super Moderators

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 36,563 posts
  • Location:North Las Vegas
  • Flag:

Posted 13 February 2017 - 19:31

2012 is when I took that scan. I probably had just bought the ink.


Fountain pens are my preferred COLOR DELIVERY SYSTEM (in part because crayons melt in Las Vegas).

 

Want to get a special letter / gift from me, then create a Ghostly Avatar  

 

Ink comparisons:  The Great PPS Comparison  366 Inks in 2016

 

Check out inks sorted by color:  Blue Purple Brown  Red Green Dark Green Orange Black  Pinks  Yellows  Blue-Blacks Grey/Gray UVInks Turquoise/Teal MURKY


#23 ac12

ac12

    Museum Piece

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 9,535 posts
  • Location:San Francisco Bay Area, California, USA - SFO
  • Flag:

Posted 13 February 2017 - 23:59

ISW

Be aware that a scan uploaded to FPN looks different than the scan held in your hand.

I went through that exercise and concluded that I could not get the uploaded image of the scan look like the physical scan.


San Francisco Pen Show - August 28-30, 2020 - Redwood City, California

www.SFPenShow.com


#24 Ink Stained Wretch

Ink Stained Wretch

    Donor Pen

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,354 posts
  • Location:The Wrong Side of the Inkwell

Posted 14 February 2017 - 14:09

ISW

Be aware that a scan uploaded to FPN looks different than the scan held in your hand.

I went through that exercise and concluded that I could not get the uploaded image of the scan look like the physical scan.

 

Yes, I am aware that my monitor is not calibrated, and that very few people's monitors are calibrated, and very few scanners are calibrated. However, the difference from what I have is so stark that I still had to wonder if the formula for Noodler's Luxury Blue ink had/has changed.

 

I remember Nathan saying that the ingredients for that ink were difficult to come by, when he first released that particular creation to the public. So I'm thinking that it's entirely possible that the availability and/or cost of ingredients for Luxury Blue might have forced Nathan to change the ink, and therefore its color.

 

Anyway, I've got what I've got and I won't be buying more unless I hit the LOTTO or something. It was and is a very pricey ink in terms of cost per unit volume.


On a sacred quest for the perfect blue ink mixture!
ink stained wretch filling inkwell

#25 amberleadavis

amberleadavis

    Inky! En-Abe-Lawyer

  • FPN Super Moderators

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 36,563 posts
  • Location:North Las Vegas
  • Flag:

Posted 14 February 2017 - 18:16

Also, my Luxury Blue was really similar to Upper Ganges in terms of color.  Nathan told me that they are very different under UV light.


Fountain pens are my preferred COLOR DELIVERY SYSTEM (in part because crayons melt in Las Vegas).

 

Want to get a special letter / gift from me, then create a Ghostly Avatar  

 

Ink comparisons:  The Great PPS Comparison  366 Inks in 2016

 

Check out inks sorted by color:  Blue Purple Brown  Red Green Dark Green Orange Black  Pinks  Yellows  Blue-Blacks Grey/Gray UVInks Turquoise/Teal MURKY


#26 NORVIN

NORVIN

    Near Mint

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPip
  • 35 posts
  • Flag:

Posted 15 February 2017 - 17:22

I ordered a 3 oz. bottle of Noodler's Liberty's Elysium for Goulet Pen.  I'll see how it does.


Edited by NORVIN, 15 February 2017 - 17:23.


#27 domzals1

domzals1

    Rare

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 167 posts
  • Location:Chicago
  • Flag:

Posted 16 February 2017 - 04:05

I ordered a 3 oz. bottle of Noodler's Liberty's Elysium for Goulet Pen.  I'll see how it does.


FWIW, LE also stained my pen a bit due to a breakdown in my pen maintenance discipline.

#28 ukobke

ukobke

    Extremely Rare

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 204 posts
  • Location:Greece
  • Flag:

Posted 16 February 2017 - 15:44

There is no blue like Baystate Blue.

 

This thread http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/229624-international-klein-blue-the-most-perfect-expression-of-blue/ 

 

is the most analytical about the case of BSB and blues . Awsome analysis.


Still missing the "White Stripe" MYU and black brother MYU with transparent section! (Has somebody a "Murex" with a working clock? (Thanks to Steve I found the "Black Stripe Capless" and the "White Stripe Capless")

#29 torstar

torstar

    Donor Pen

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,312 posts
  • Location:Toronto

Posted 16 February 2017 - 15:45

I give up for 3 months on BSB and settle into blue-green great inks, then the itch hits me and I pull the BSB off the shelf for another whirl...



#30 NORVIN

NORVIN

    Near Mint

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPip
  • 35 posts
  • Flag:

Posted 16 February 2017 - 19:57

There is no blue like Baystate Blue.

 

This thread http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/229624-international-klein-blue-the-most-perfect-expression-of-blue/ 

 

is the most analytical about the case of BSB and blues . Awsome analysis.

That's an interesting thread.  Thanks for sharing.

 

I am just looking for a bullet-proof, eternal, non-bleed through alternative for BSB.  I should have Liberty's Elysium this weekend with any luck.



#31 tonybelding

tonybelding

    Donor Pen

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,590 posts
  • Flag:

Posted 16 February 2017 - 20:51

That's an interesting thread.  Thanks for sharing.

 

I am just looking for a bullet-proof, eternal, non-bleed through alternative for BSB.  I should have Liberty's Elysium this weekend with any luck.

 

 

LE isn't vivid like BSB, but it's vivid.  It's also not fully waterproof, though there is a permanent component that always remains.

 

Another notable option might be Noodler's Texas Blue Bonnet.  It's almost completely waterproof (only a very small amount of cyan comes out) security ink, and it's a dark blue leaning very slightly towards teal.  It bleeds and feathers somewhat less than the average Noodler's ink.  It's not a vibrant color, but it's an attractive one (IMHO) and has excellent shading.  I go so far as to call it my favorite blue ink.

 

However, TBB also is smelly and high-maintenance.  I decided I could live with that.



#32 torstar

torstar

    Donor Pen

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,312 posts
  • Location:Toronto

Posted 16 February 2017 - 22:22

There is no blue like Baystate Blue.

 

This thread http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/229624-international-klein-blue-the-most-perfect-expression-of-blue/ 

 

is the most analytical about the case of BSB and blues . Awsome analysis.

 

Does the article consider that BSB has (I am assuming from use) undergone reformulations to make it a more user-friendly ink over the years?  Sorry, no time to read the site currently, and I would really like to have the time to do so shortly...



#33 NORVIN

NORVIN

    Near Mint

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPip
  • 35 posts
  • Flag:

Posted 20 February 2017 - 09:30

I received the Noodler's Liberty's Elysium and no it is not as electric as BSB, but it is not that bad.  Kind of a Navy color.

Attached Images

  • IMG_20170220_005714.jpg


#34 NORVIN

NORVIN

    Near Mint

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPip
  • 35 posts
  • Flag:

Posted 04 March 2017 - 06:46

I posted this to another thread and it is my conclusion on this subject:

 

I have both BSB and LE.  I bought a brand new Noodler's Konrad Windego and inked it up with BSB.  I noticed immediately my pen was stained.  It took several cleanings and soakings to get the BSB stains out of it completely, but I was able to and now that pen is my LE pen.  It's much easier to clean ink off the pen after filling it and no stains  :) so if you decide to try BSB, have a dedicated pen for it you don't mind getting stained.  Something like a Jinhao X750 or 599 (fountain pen with an international converter) would be the best choice.

 

As to BSB's performance, I like it, but hate how it bleeds through all my paper making two-sided writing impractical.  I now use it for checks and small notes.

 

LE's performance is much better.  It does bleed through the papers I use, but not as bad as BSB.  It is not the electric blue color of BSB, but LE has a nice blue color to it.  Kind of a light Navy color for lack of a better description.

 

I'd love to see a new BSB with the performance and spec's of Noodler's Black minus the black color.



#35 the_gasman

the_gasman

    Vintage

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 656 posts
  • Flag:

Posted 04 March 2017 - 08:58

OK, it's silly question time.

 

In order to achieve vibrancy, resilience, and permanence can you mix a favoured ink with some iron gall ink?

I suspect that the answer is a firm "NO!!!" because of incompatible pH or some demonic battle between the ingredients of the different ink families but someone, somewhere must have tried it. Or do any of the specifically and carefully formulated KWZ ferrogallic inks fit the bill?

 

Cheers,

David.



#36 amberleadavis

amberleadavis

    Inky! En-Abe-Lawyer

  • FPN Super Moderators

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 36,563 posts
  • Location:North Las Vegas
  • Flag:

Posted 05 March 2017 - 02:02

Use a KWZI ink if you want colorful IGs.  IGs are a different inky creature.


Fountain pens are my preferred COLOR DELIVERY SYSTEM (in part because crayons melt in Las Vegas).

 

Want to get a special letter / gift from me, then create a Ghostly Avatar  

 

Ink comparisons:  The Great PPS Comparison  366 Inks in 2016

 

Check out inks sorted by color:  Blue Purple Brown  Red Green Dark Green Orange Black  Pinks  Yellows  Blue-Blacks Grey/Gray UVInks Turquoise/Teal MURKY


#37 ac12

ac12

    Museum Piece

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 9,535 posts
  • Location:San Francisco Bay Area, California, USA - SFO
  • Flag:

Posted 05 March 2017 - 02:47

Norvin,

Slow down the ink flow of your pen, and LE should lighten up.

Out of my Parker 45, it is NOT a dark navy color.


San Francisco Pen Show - August 28-30, 2020 - Redwood City, California

www.SFPenShow.com


#38 NORVIN

NORVIN

    Near Mint

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPip
  • 35 posts
  • Flag:

Posted 06 March 2017 - 08:08

Norvin,

Slow down the ink flow of your pen, and LE should lighten up.

Out of my Parker 45, it is NOT a dark navy color.

 

I said, "light Navy color", lol.

 

"LE's performance is much better.  It does bleed through the papers I use, but not as bad as BSB.  It is not the electric blue color of BSB, but LE has a nice blue color to it.  Kind of a light Navy color for lack of a better description."


Edited by NORVIN, 06 March 2017 - 08:10.






Also tagged with one or more of these keywords: noodler, noodlers, baystate blue, bad blue heron, upper ganges, luxury blue, periwinkle, polar blue, bulletproof, eternal



Sponsored Content




|