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Verdura - Rohrer & Klingner

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#1 visvamitra

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Posted 05 February 2017 - 20:43

Rohrer & Klingner operates since 1892. At the moment it's the fifth generation of the family that manages the company. I guess that after 122 years they know what they are doing.

 

R&K inks offer amazing quality for amazing price. In my country a bnottle of R&K ink costs 5-6 $. I know it's a bit more expensive in America, yet I believe the price is still reasonable.

 

I find it interesting that Rohrer & Klingner seems to focus mainly on the content and not on the bottles. Inks come in industrial looking bottle taht is quite handy but there's just nothing fancy about it. It's surprising. 

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Anyway they offer eighteen colors, some stunning, some boring but all have good qualities and are easy to clean.

 

 

 

  1. Alt-bordeaux
  2. Alt-Goldgrun
  3. Blu Mare
  4. Blue Permanent
  5. Cassia
  6. Fernambuc
  7. Helianthus
  8. Leipziger-Schwarz
  9. Magenta
  10. Morinda
  11. Royal Blue
  12. Salix
  13. Scabiosa
  14. Sepia
  15. Smaragdgrun
  16. Solferino
  17. Verdigris
  18. Verdura

 

It's time to re-review this inks. 

 

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I never liked Verdura and time didn't change it. I used to think it was ok ink and I guess it's still ok but I practically never use it. There's nothing wrong with the ink - it's well behaved and shades and all. It's just the hue doesn't appeal to me. 

 

 

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The dry time is medium length, reaching 15 seconds when the ink is used in wet nib on paper like Rhodia. It lacks water resistance but cleans nicely from the pen. Some feathering may be experienced on crappy paper (Moleskine and alikes).
 
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Color range
 
 
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Tomoe River, Lamy 2000, medium nib
 
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Leuchtturm1917, Kaweco Skyline Sport, double broad
 
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Clairefontaine, Kaweco Skyline Sport, broad
 
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Water resistance
 
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Posted 05 February 2017 - 20:55

Wait till you get to Smaragdgrün!

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Posted 05 February 2017 - 20:55

That's an ugly green.

#4 visvamitra

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Posted 05 February 2017 - 21:01

I know Smaragdgrun, sadly. I try not to think about the time I'll rereview it. It's simply hideous.



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Posted 05 February 2017 - 21:14

Vis - thanks for your work!
Verdura - no thanks!!

Sidenote: in my northern Adriatic dialect the term verdura is used for green leafy vegetables - but I am sure this is not what R&K had in mind when naming the ink.

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 02:26

Thank you.
Be generally found that the Rohrer and klingner inks tend to feather on normal paper sheets other inks may not

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 02:37

Thank you Vis for your great reviews! I appreciate your candor. While you abhor blue-greens, these are some of my favorite. My Verdura seems a bit less "blue" than yours. I love Verdura as it is a wonderful early summer green, like newly mowed lawn. To me it is rather refreshing. And Smaragdgrun is one of those lovely emerald greens that I love - in the vein of Montblanc Irish Green and Callifolio Teodora to name a few.

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 03:23

The shading looks good, but this is not a green I like.  Thanks for the review though -- seeing inks I don't want is as useful as seeing ones I do.  And better for my bottom line.

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 04:41

I actually like this green, and I bought a bottle of it after trying out a sample.  My sample is very slightly bluish-green, but compared to the other medium greens I've tried, it's a middle-of-the-road hue.  It behaves very nicely in my Lamy Safari.



#10 amberleadavis

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 23:37

Vis, each time I see this color, I think, oh, Vis will hate this.  At least it cleans out well.


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Posted 08 February 2017 - 00:35

No for me.

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 15:03

@Amber - yes, that's definitely the color I'm carzy about :)



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Posted 09 February 2017 - 20:09

For years I read how expensive C d'A inks were. So never looked for any. When they changed. I did and it was cheap in Europe. I was listening to the one in the States.....I could have had many more bottles had I known that.

 

Mail is gold in the States.....perhaps the most expensive in the world in Congress took the bribes from Fed Ex and USP to screw over the post office. Which had to come up for all the pensions from before and future all at once. The US mail is not allowed by law to bribe congress like UPS and Fed Ex.

 

So postage from Germany is affordable from me mailing here and it was cheaper to pay extra for Airline extra weight than use US Mail to Germany. Even books don't get rebate like before.

 

So do check what postage is to the states from R&K.

 

 

I had some samples from Gmund and some good to better other papers, I did ink samples on, in a folder. Nothing real organized, just a line of that ink...with any nib marked that had it.

 

Once when newer I was OCD, to want to do 8 nibs on 5-7 papers. That was a lot of cleaning of ink pens.....took all the fun out of it.

So I did tests of papers...the better papers got more lines of more inks written on them.

 

In Green-green shading inks. (I don't count dark, or murky in green-green. so of the 13 or so green/greenish inks only three are green-green. The rest are somewhere off the wall.)

 

R&K Verdura (50ml)(@E7.00) beats MB Irish (60ml) (@E13)by a nose, beats Pelikan 4001(30ml) (@E4) by a neck. I find all three to be quite good inks, in spite of some who hate the color.

All are good shading green inks. They don't feather or bleed through.

 

Pelikan is not quite as cheap as it looks (About R&K prices), and MB not as quite as expensive as feared....well got to pay for the pretty bottle. :rolleyes:

I am very happy I made a mistake and ordered two bottles of Verdura.

 

Some folks it seems don't like a green-green inks. Perhaps they like dark greens. There are many.

I found DA Moss Green to be a bit more bright spring time than the expected darker summer time moss. I don't dislike it. I just need to see it with a different wider nib. I have after I got the ink looked at moss in the spring....and it's spring Moss.

 

Any of Sandy1's :notworthy1: ink reviews will show you nib width and paper will make a huge difference.

 

I might use better papers than some, in to me R&K are not feathering inks like Diamine.


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