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Kyo No Oto Nureba-Iro

kyo no oto black

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#1 white_lotus


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Posted 15 January 2017 - 21:17

A while back in May 2016 there was discussion of new inks from Japan from Kyoto. I'm not even sure of the name of the company, but the box has the letters TAG on it as practically the only English. Vanness now seems to carry these inks which will make them readily available to US ink lovers. The price is $28 for a 40ml bottle, so fairly expensive, but the dollar:yen exchange hasn't been as favorable to purchasing from Japan of late so higher prices are expected.


Visvamitra did a very thorough review of this ink



and Tas did a wonderful rambling with it for us


I'm not going to duplicate what they have so excellently said. I really like this rich black ink. I like black inks. The issue I had was nib dryout leading to hard starts after only a few seconds pause. Once writing, the ink flowed great. It could be the pen has issues that other inks obscure. The nib has never been tuned, so that could be the problem especially if others didn't experience the same problem.


The ink is also a very slow drier. This won;'t be as much of a problem on more absorbent papers but on harder sized papers this will become evident.


Pen: Pelikan M400 (F 14kt)

Papers: MvL=Mohawk via Linen, TR=Tomoe River, Hij=Hammermill 28 lb inkjet, Rhodia=Rhodia 90g ivory.

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Not water resistant at all, but washes nicely with blue-black.



The ink also comprises a blue dye and a small quantity of brownish dye that you can see at the edge of the ink droplet.



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#2 lapis


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Posted 15 January 2017 - 21:24

Lovely ink. I was about to say just that which you typed in the last two lines about blue and brown (before I got that far). A beautiful and effective subtlety which makes it not just "a" black but a "great" black. IMO.

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Posted 15 January 2017 - 21:43

This is my favourite black. I've used it since I was sent a trial bottle from Japan two years ago. In this comparison with Waterman Intense Black, it really shows off its amazing copper sheen. The complexity of the ink is fascinating. It can be a bit of a stainer though......


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Posted 15 January 2017 - 22:22

It's one of very few blacks inks I keep at home in case I want to use black.

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Posted 15 January 2017 - 22:58

I'm loving how people from far and wide and with such varied tastes are managing to agree on this gorgeous gorgeous black.


white_lotus, I would have bought a bottle based on your review. Look at that wash away colour . . .  :wub:

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Posted 15 January 2017 - 23:26


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Posted 17 January 2017 - 23:12

Great review. Thanks Migo for the comparison and warning about staining.

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#8 white_lotus


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 02:55

I didn't get any staining on the M400 but after migo's comment I didn't keep the pen inked for long.

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 15:30

I got mine on Amazon. Bought several other colors also.

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