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Faux Penman Sapphire #11

Some readers of the FPN may have noticed a minor predilection of mine towards making copies|duplicates|replicants of the famous|infamous Parker Penman Sappire.

So far, the most successful of my recipes have been FPS #8b and FPS #9. Others have developed duplicates like NIS (Noodler’s Inkyman Sapphire), and I have also recently posted FPS #10, but since it was made from Iroshizuku inks, it is a bit expensive.

Now, I would like to present –

FPS #11

Recipe

Akkerman #5 Shocking Blue 50%

Distilled Water   50%

Now, I know that the complexity of this recipe will put some people off, but it has the advantage that it makes your bottle of Akkerman ink last twice as long.

Alternatively, you could take 1/3 of your bottle of Akkerman #5 (20 mls) and add 20 mls of distilled water, giving you 40 mls of FPS #11. That will give you with 40 mls of Akkerman #5 and 40 mls of FPS #11, the best of both worlds.

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As you can see from the examples, it really depends on the way cosmic rays were bouncing off the pen or cotton swab at the time, which one looks bluer, and which has the greater reddish sheen.

On average, the inks look pretty much the same, and behave pretty much the same.

Blend and enjoy...

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Thank you. :) In the second picture, is the first image PPS?

 

(Just so you know, the two images are so wide they don't fit on my screen even when I scroll across.)

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An interesting combination - think I'll give it a go sometime.

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"Meddler's 'Salamander' - almost as good as the real thing!"

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Thank you. :) In the second picture, is the first image PPS?

 

(Just so you know, the two images are so wide they don't fit on my screen even when I scroll across.)

 

Yes, I don't know why they don't fit, they usually do.

 

 

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I have reposted the images. I hope this is better.

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And someone has to speak up for them as has no voices.”


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Good job! Your mix is a bit closer to turquoise that the real PPS. I wonder if a bit of Visconti Blue wouldn't give it more punch and make it a tad less turquoise. I don't have the Akkerman, so I can't try it myself...

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Keep up the good work!

Fountain pens are my preferred COLOR DELIVERY SYSTEM (in part because crayons melt in Las Vegas).

Create a Ghostly Avatar and I'll send you a letter. Check out some Ink comparisons: The Great PPS Comparison 

Don't know where to start?  Look at the Inky Topics O'day.  Then, see inks sorted by color: Blue Purple Brown Red Green Dark Green Orange Black Pinks Yellows Blue-Blacks Grey/Gray UVInks Turquoise/Teal MURKY

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Here is a sample comparing Akkerman #5 Shocking Blue, original Parker Penman Sapphire and FPS #11

 

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The first two lines are Akkerman #5 Shocking Blue,

the next two are Parker Penman Sapphire,

and the last one is FPS #11

 

All were done on Moleskine beige paper using a FP nib set in a dip pen holder, and dipped in each ink.

 

As usual, click on the image for a larger view.

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I wonder how it would work with Diamine Majestic Blue, which I find pretty close to Akkerman Shocking Blue?

 

It's very close.

But from that experiment I went on to develop Faux Penman Sapphire #9 , which is made using Majestic Blue along with Diamine Sapphire Blue to brighten it up, and water to dilute it all.

 

However I have found that inks respond to the lighting they are under. Over the years I have changed the lighting in my den from incandescent to fluorescent to, now, LED. Each type of lighting makes the inks look different. A pair that may look identical under fluorescent light look quite different under LED. And I have changed from a scanner with a fluorescent lamp to one with an LED lamp, so that helps.

 

One thing I like about both FPN #9 and #11 is that they both include lots of water, which makes the blends particularly inexpensive.

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“Them as can do has to do for them as can’t.


And someone has to speak up for them as has no voices.”


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I have tried your FPS #9 however I feel that the basic colour of majestic blue, which has a net tendency towards green shade is predominant. When I initially blend majestic blue and sapphire blue in the recommended doses the resulting colour when wet looks more bluish and similar to scanned samples of Penman Sapphire (which unfortunately I do not own for comparison). Aftyer drying however the greenish tint of majestic blue comes out again.

I have actually tried increasing the dose of sapphire blue even 1:1 but after drying the green comes out again.

I feel majestic blue may not be the correct starting point to mimic PPS, although having never actually tried real PPS I may be wrong.

 

your FPS#11 does not seem to have any hints of green so I will give it a go! (need to get hold of a bottle of Akkerman SB first...)

 

How do you reckon private Reserve Electric DC vs real PPS?

thanks

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I agree with your thoughts on FPS #9, but it was the closest I could come up with at the time. It may be that adding a tiny bit of a transparent red might overcome the green tendency, but I haven't confirmed that yet.

 

I haven't tried PR Electric DC yet, so I can't comment, but I find that the others that are said to be close to PPS (PR American Blue, PR DC Supershow Blue and PR Lake Placid Blue) are all too wet and intense to closely match PPS. However, they are good inks and many people like them as they are.

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“Them as can do has to do for them as can’t.


And someone has to speak up for them as has no voices.”


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thanks for reply, I have tried PR Electric DC and the colour does look very close to scans of PPS, but my experience with PR inks is that they are sort of "sticky"... I would not really describe them as wet, although it is true they flow generously and are somewhat too dense in colour.

I believe these more modern types of inks have a lot of additives (surfactants and similar stuff) to keep them flowing despite being so dense, however the drawback seems to be that they are absorbed less easily by the paper, and remain somewhat sticky. My ideal type of ink, regardless of colour should flow and dry like waterman florida blue (probably one of my favourite blues) or pelikan 4001, or J.Herbin Eclat de Saphir which I consider "watery" inks (not meaning wet, however, but with high water content and less soapy additives).

 

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Alternatively, you could take 1/3 of your bottle of Akkerman #5 (20 mls) and add 20 mls of distilled water, giving you 40 mls of FPS #11. That will give you with 40 mls of Akkerman #5 and 40 mls of FPS #11, the best of both worlds.

 

Don't forget this also leaves 40 ml of distilled water, another advantage. :)

 

I really like Shocking Blue own; this recipe just adds to the value of a bottle.

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