Different Brand Ink Use On Converter

[whtjddn]

Hello,

I was wondering if i can use different ink on Lamy Safari. For example, I want to use Montblanc black ink with my Lamy converter. Would this affect the pen ?

[PAKMAN]

Should work just fine!

[antichresis]

It will not affect the pen

[cattar]

Flush the pen & converter first.

Some inks don't play well together.

[tinta]

My wife has been using Montblanc's Royal Blue in her Safari for at least the last five years. You can use any brand of ink in a Lamy Safari.

First flush your new pen with water + a drop or two of wash-up liquid (helps remove manufacturing residues), followed by a thorough water flush.

Then fill with Montblanc Black ink & enjoy.

[RMN]

Hello,

I was wondering if i can use different ink on Lamy Safari. For example, I want to use Montblanc black ink with my Lamy converter. Would this affect the pen ?

 

You can use all proper fountainpen ink in all fountain pens. The only brand "insisting" you use their own brand or void your warranty is Montblanc. But that practice is forbidden (there were some similar issues with printer ink in the past)

 

Ofcourse some types of inks need more care (more frequent flushing, don't let it dry out), like Iron-gall-inks. But that goes for any brand pen you put them into.

 

 

 

D.ick

[prashant.tikekar]

 

You can use all proper fountainpen ink in all fountain pens. The only brand "insisting" you use their own brand or void your warranty is Montblanc. But that practice is forbidden (there were some similar issues with printer ink in the past)

 

Ofcourse some types of inks need more care (more frequent flushing, don't let it dry out), like Iron-gall-inks. But that goes for any brand pen you put them into.

 

 

 

D.ick

AFAIK Waterman is another brand which insists to use their own ink else warranty is void.

[RMN]

AFAIK Waterman is another brand which insists to use their own ink else warranty is void.

 

That's the first time I hear this. And I have quite a number of Waterman pens....

 

Perhaps the Indian section of Waterman? AFAIK they do some production IN India....

 

 

 

 

D.ick

[twdpens]

The main reason that manufacturers insist on the use of their own brand ink is to avoid service and warranty issues. Service returns are costly and a discomfort in the posterior for manufacturers. By "insisting" on the use of a known ink the manufacturer is ensuring that there is less danger of the "wrong" type of ink being used and damaging the pen (for example India ink or calligraphy inks). Remember, not all fountain pen users are as informed or as educated as those on here on FPN and, sadly, manufacturers often have to appeal to the lowest common denominator.

 

The other reason for this insistence is to help the sales of their own ink of course.

 

In short, use any reputable brand fountain pen ink you like in your pen and enjoy the results.

 

HTH,

 

Martin

[Lamb South]

I use Montblanc, Pilot Iroshizuku, Diamene, and Noodlers inks in my Lamy pens without any problems. As said above, any reputable ink brand should work.

[inkstainedruth]

I have been told that certain inks should not go into vintage pens (particularly saturated inks); I was particularly amused by the stricture that "you should only use German inks in German pens" (dunno if this meant Lamy, Pelikan, R&K or De Atramentis). But basically it comes down to how the ink behaves -- some pens do better with wet inks, and some drier ones.

I will say that I tried several inks in a Sheaffer Snorkel with an EF nib before finding an ink that worked well in it -- and that ink was modern Skrip Purple. OTOH, vintage Skrip Peacock *didn't* work well in it....

Like other people have said -- as long as it's not something like India ink, or inks containing gum arabic, you're probably fine. It might not work as well as a different ink might, but it will work -- just flush the pen and converter well between fills if you're changing inks. And if it's something like Noodler's Bay State series inks, you might want to dedicate a pen specifically to those, because they don't play well with other inks -- even other Noodler's inks.

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[prashant.tikekar]

 

That's the first time I hear this. And I have quite a number of Waterman pens....

 

Perhaps the Indian section of Waterman? AFAIK they do some production IN India....

 

 

 

 

D.ick

 

It is their international warranty policy on the leaflet included with the pen imported not made in India. It is there on their website too.

http://www.waterman.com/en/content/19-international-warranty

This warranty is granted by WATERMAN and applies in all countries other than the US and Canada, where a separate warranty applies.

Your WATERMAN® writing instrument is guaranteed for three years from the date of original purchase against defects in materials or workmanship. If found to be defective within the warranty period, your WATERMAN® product will be repaired or replaced free of charge. This warranty may be extended by registering your WATERMAN®writing instrument at www.waterman.com.

This warranty does not cover routine maintenance, or damage resulting from the failure to maintain the product in accordance with instructions provided by WATERMAN.This warranty also does not cover ordinary wear and tear arising from use of the product, or damage that may arise from accidental or intentional misuse or abuse, alteration or customization, or repair by unauthorized persons. This warranty also does not cover damage that is caused by the use of inks or refills other than those made by WATERMAN.

[Astronymus]

I use J.Herbin inks in my Lamy Al-Stars. Works absolutly fine.

As long as it is quality ink there shouldn't be a problem. Yet some pens don't like particular inks. They then write to wet or to dry. You just have to test that.

A safari is fine with most inks. Yet I noticed my Lamy Joy didn't like Pelikan 4001 Brilliant Schwarz very much. Too dry. But he loves J.Herbin's Perle Noire.

[RMN]

 

It is their international warranty policy on the leaflet included with the pen imported not made in India. It is there on their website too.

http://www.waterman.com/en/content/19-international-warranty

This warranty is granted by WATERMAN and applies in all countries other than the US and Canada, where a separate warranty applies.

Your WATERMAN® writing instrument is guaranteed for three years from the date of original purchase against defects in materials or workmanship. If found to be defective within the warranty period, your WATERMAN® product will be repaired or replaced free of charge. This warranty may be extended by registering your WATERMAN®writing instrument at www.waterman.com.

This warranty does not cover routine maintenance, or damage resulting from the failure to maintain the product in accordance with instructions provided by WATERMAN.This warranty also does not cover ordinary wear and tear arising from use of the product, or damage that may arise from accidental or intentional misuse or abuse, alteration or customization, or repair by unauthorized persons. This warranty also does not cover damage that is caused by the use of inks or refills other than those made by WATERMAN.

 

 

Depends on the wording. They do not cover damage caused by... If you put India Ink in it they will certainly not cover. If you put in certain very staining inks in and you complain about the stains: no dice. Which is perfectly all right.

 

I think, but am not sure, the problem with MB was that if they detect other ink they flatly refuse to service.

 

 

D.ick

[tonybelding]

Depends on the wording. They do not cover damage caused by... If you put India Ink in it they will certainly not cover. If you put in certain very staining inks in and you complain about the stains: no dice. Which is perfectly all right.

 

I think, but am not sure, the problem with MB was that if they detect other ink they flatly refuse to service.

 

 

I suspect that practice would be illegal in the USA under the rules of the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. It may be like those "warranty void if seal broken" stickers that you sometimes find on computers or electronics equipment. They're meant to scare you, but they have no legal force.

 

Anyhow, the warranty language used by Waterman should be OK. They can't void a warranty simply because you used other brand ink, but they most certainly can if that ink actually caused the damage in question.

[RMN]

 

 

I suspect that practice would be illegal in the USA under the rules of the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. It may be like those "warranty void if seal broken" stickers that you sometimes find on computers or electronics equipment. They're meant to scare you, but they have no legal force.

 

Anyhow, the warranty language used by Waterman should be OK. They can't void a warranty simply because you used other brand ink, but they most certainly can if that ink actually caused the damage in question.

 

We seem to agree...

 

 

D.ick