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I'm looking for some insight into what inks would be safe from staining the inside of the barrel of Pelikan plastic. I'm thinking about using Diamine Autumn Oak, but I'm guessing this is a big no-go, or? What do you guys use and you know does not stain whatsoever? I have great experience with Iroshizuku line of inks, personally.

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I can't see any reason why you shouldn't use Diamine Autumn Oak in your piston filling pens. I regularly do and it doesn't stain the insides of any of my Pelikan or Montblanc barrels.

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I can't see any reason why you shouldn't use Diamine Autumn Oak in your piston filling pens. I regularly do and it doesn't stain the insides of any of my Pelikan or Montblanc barrels.

 

Thanks, that's reassuring. I read Autumn Oak can stain some types of plastic - i.e. some converters, but couldn't find a source for Pelikans' plastic specifically.

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Short of Bay State Blue and some purples I have not found any inks that stain Pelikan plastic.

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Reds are a no no :angry:.

...purples which lean towards red, have to be cleaned out frequently with piston window pens.

If so, use a pen flush, just to be sure.

 

In today's fountain pen world, with everyone changing inks frequently that is not a problem.

 

Ah, in I'd be using only your pen with Bay State Blue or what ever other colors are or were in the Bay State stains...I didn't think about that.

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Pelikan inks in general should't cause a problem, but yes, reds can stain more easily as they tend to have more acidity.

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In my experience, avoid Private Reserve Naples Blue. I used it in a M200 demonstrator and it took quite a bit of work to banish the light blue stain it left behind.

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Reds and purples are traditionally something to be cautious with. Bay State blue, some of their Noodler's cousins, a couple of the PR inks Require extra attention. But with careful management, good and frequent pen hygiene, most inks will work just fine for you.

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Reds and purples are traditionally something to be cautious with. Bay State blue, some of their Noodler's cousins, a couple of the PR inks Require extra attention. But with careful management, good and frequent pen hygiene, most inks will work just fine for you.

 

Would you include Iroshizuku Yama Budo in inks that one should be careful with?

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I'm perhaps one of the old school, that really doesn't mind staining, if it's a particular pen that I want to use a particular ink in. As with some people, I would suggest that a pen be reserved for Baystate Blue, which is why I use a Kaweco Dia 2 for that wonderful ink. Mainly because I didn't know what else to use in it and they really seem to get on well together.

I wouldn't use it in my M805 clear demo though but most other would be considered.

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KWZ Azure #4 left a tidewater line of fogging behind in my M1000 demo. Surprised, as these inks have otherwise been perfection.

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I just received my M805 demo and am also considering what inks would be safe. I'm really liking MB blue-black (vintage ig formula) - would the acidity of the irongall attack the clear plastic?

 

I'm assuming that MB blue, and Pelikan blue-black would be safe?

 

The pen is really crystalline - it's the first time in my life that I haven't immediately inked up a new pen!

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IG inks were normal inks back in the day...so I'd not worry about them.

 

I often bought old used pens (vintage) in German Ebay. Pens that sat for a Generation or two in the dark of the back of the drawer. Putting the piston pen in the bathroom sink to clean them; if the ink came out quick on the first filling in a nice big blue cloud :lol: ....it was the most wonderful ink ever made for drying out in a pen ....Pelikan 4001 Royal Blue...(could have been Lamy or MB's but it was a Royal Blue.)

 

If it took a while to get any response and then the ink came out in dark strings.... black...or :angry: it was a BB and IG and would take three times as long to clean up as the Royal Blue.

 

Back in the day....folks lived a simple life of two to three inks and nothing more. It has been very seldom I even got purple/violet, I doubt I ever got green or brown. No bookeeper's red either.

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Private Reserve American blue permanently stained the ink chamber at the nib end of a very clean 1950's 400 of mine.

 

I wince every single time I use it and that was over ten years ago. Grrrr!

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Unless you're using a demonstrator I wouldn't even worry about it (except for BSB). The stripes on the other models are thin and a little dark already.

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Well, i frequently use reds an purples in my M1005 and M805 demonstrators, they stained nothing. If any thing, the piston grease took someting, but that always went with the next inkcolour.

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I find that there are no absolutes here. I have heard of so called "safe" inks staining and other more risque inks not causing any issues. Mileage seems to vary significantly. I think common sense and good pen hygiene/maintenance play a big part in preventing staining. That said, heavily saturated inks like Bay State Blue are very likely to cause trouble and should be avoided if staining is a concern. I've not had any issues from a variety of Pelikan, Waterman, Diamine, Rohrer & Klingner, and Aurora inks.

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I find that there are no absolutes here. I have heard of so called "safe" inks staining and other more risque inks not causing any issues. Mileage seems to vary significantly. I think common sense and good pen hygiene/maintenance play a big part in preventing staining. That said, heavily saturated inks like Bay State Blue are very likely to cause trouble and should be avoided if staining is a concern. I've not had any issues from a variety of Pelikan, Waterman, Diamine, Rohrer & Klingner, and Aurora inks.

 

This is reassuring. I just bought a Pelikan M200 anthricite demonstrator, and I had intended to use Montblanc violet or Lamy dark lilac in it. Then I red the thread condemning red ink and reddish inks like violet. I think I'll use the violet. Next in my mind was Montblanc burgundy red. I like the Pelikans better when the color is all the same, but not black. I was attracted to the demonstrator for that reason. I think I'll use the violet in the anthricite and see if the thin silicone layer helps.

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Inks too wet for 14K EF. Using blue ink, the one I like least, but at least it's dry.

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