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Titanium Bock Nib - Kaigelu 316 - Beaufort Ink

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#1 Frank66

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Posted 06 December 2016 - 10:40

I recently exhanged the nib in my Kaigelu 316 pen

with a Titanium Bock nib from Beaufort Ink (UK).

 

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The new nib is quite wet, feels very bouncy on the paper,

is somewhat feebbacky but pleasantly so,

and can write semi-flexy when little pressure is applied.

 

For regular writing, it feels like driving a car with

super soft suspension (shock-absorbers).

Makes going back to nail stiff steel nibs

very difficult indeed.

 

Positives:

- line variation,

- cushioning effect the springy nib gives.

 

Negatives

- ''gas guzzler'' meaning it uses a lot of ink,

   compared to a regular EF nib.

 

I wanted to try it for a long time,

I do not regret buying it!

 

There are a lot of nibs that

can be tried on the Kaigelu 316.

It is a beautiful pen!

 

Ink is Waterman Harmonious Green.


Edited by Frank66, 06 December 2016 - 12:55.

- Kaigelu 316 Modification (250 #6 Bock Nib / Beaufort Ink Converter)
- Titanium Bock Nib - Kaigelu 316 - Beaufort Ink

- Bock Rollerball Nib In Jinhao 886 Pen - Beaufort Ink Converter

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- It matters what you write, only for us it matters what we write it with.


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Posted 06 December 2016 - 12:09

Looks promissing.



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Posted 06 December 2016 - 12:14

Looks promissing.

 

Thanks visvamitra, sorry my handwriting is awful, I am afraid it does not do justice to the pen or the nib.  I guess in the hands of someone with better calligraphy skills, the writing samples would look much better.  Still, it writes so comfortably for everyday writing, I really mean it when I say it makes going back to nail stiff steel nibs difficult.  I guess I am too excited about it...


Edited by Frank66, 06 December 2016 - 12:56.

- Kaigelu 316 Modification (250 #6 Bock Nib / Beaufort Ink Converter)
- Titanium Bock Nib - Kaigelu 316 - Beaufort Ink

- Bock Rollerball Nib In Jinhao 886 Pen - Beaufort Ink Converter

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- It matters what you write, only for us it matters what we write it with.


#4 Shmurzik

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Posted 06 December 2016 - 15:19

Thanks for sharing, Frank, looks nice. Have you noticed any changes in the shape of the nib? From what I have heard (I have never used a titanium nib myself), these nibs are very soft but not particularly snappy compared to gold ones and thus tend to bend upwards slightly. Was that your experience as well?



#5 richardandtracy

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Posted 06 December 2016 - 16:26

Am I the only one to spot a slight absurdity here?

£15 pen, £52+ nib...

 

Looks good, writes nicely. But, oh I don't know; It seems dotty to me to put such an expensive nib in such a cheap pen. I know the pen is worth more than we pay for them, but even so.

 

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#6 Frank66

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Posted 06 December 2016 - 16:41

Thanks for sharing, Frank, looks nice. Have you noticed any changes in the shape of the nib? From what I have heard (I have never used a titanium nib myself), these nibs are very soft but not particularly snappy compared to gold ones and thus tend to bend upwards slightly. Was that your experience as well?

 

Well, I have used this nib daily for a couple of weeks now. Although I am generally careful, I am sure that I have overstetched the nib quite a bit sometimes. However, I have not had any issues with the nib deforming.

 

Here are a few pictures of the side of the nib I just took a few minutes ago. There is NO space between the feed and the underside of the nib. As far as how snappy it is, it is quite snappy I would say it is snappy enough. I am attaching a few pictures below to show how much the tines separate.

 

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Edited by Frank66, 06 December 2016 - 18:45.

- Kaigelu 316 Modification (250 #6 Bock Nib / Beaufort Ink Converter)
- Titanium Bock Nib - Kaigelu 316 - Beaufort Ink

- Bock Rollerball Nib In Jinhao 886 Pen - Beaufort Ink Converter

- No affiliation with pen industry, just a pen hobbyist.

- It matters what you write, only for us it matters what we write it with.


#7 PAKMAN

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Posted 06 December 2016 - 16:47

Looks like a lot of fun!


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#8 Frank66

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Posted 06 December 2016 - 17:07

Am I the only one to spot a slight absurdity here?
£15 pen, £52+ nib...
 
Looks good, writes nicely. But, oh I don't know; It seems dotty to me to put such an expensive nib in such a cheap pen. I know the pen is worth more than we pay for them, but even so.
 
Regards,
 
Richard.

 
I guess that this is up to personal preference to try this.  But still, what is the competition?
 
- Nanisu Nova with Titanium EF nib = £95.00, superb pen, but currently EF Ti nib sold out as shown in the Namisu Official Shop site.  https://www.namisu.c...ant=28259721225
 
- Stipula Da Vinci Titanium T Flex Carbon Capless Black Fountain Pen,  @ $636.00  from http://www.penboutiq...untain-pen.html
 
- Karas Kustoms flex aluminum fountain ink pen with EF Titanium nib @ $145.00  from https://karaskustoms...fountain.html,   Although superb pen too, it is an aluminum body pen.
 
- Stylos Titanium Ink Fountain Pen & Rollerball, Fineliner - price unknown, by Kostas Metaxas, Berlin Germany, currently at kickstarter level, estimated delivery Feb 2017.   http://www.metaxas.com , https://www.kickstar...lerball-artlin , http://www.fountainp...l-artliner-pen/
 
I have no regrets upgrading my Kaigelu with the Titanium flex nib.  Writing experience with it is stellar !

Edited by Frank66, 06 December 2016 - 20:21.

- Kaigelu 316 Modification (250 #6 Bock Nib / Beaufort Ink Converter)
- Titanium Bock Nib - Kaigelu 316 - Beaufort Ink

- Bock Rollerball Nib In Jinhao 886 Pen - Beaufort Ink Converter

- No affiliation with pen industry, just a pen hobbyist.

- It matters what you write, only for us it matters what we write it with.


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Posted 06 December 2016 - 17:11

Looks like a lot of fun!

Thank you, PAKMAN


Edited by Frank66, 06 December 2016 - 19:28.

- Kaigelu 316 Modification (250 #6 Bock Nib / Beaufort Ink Converter)
- Titanium Bock Nib - Kaigelu 316 - Beaufort Ink

- Bock Rollerball Nib In Jinhao 886 Pen - Beaufort Ink Converter

- No affiliation with pen industry, just a pen hobbyist.

- It matters what you write, only for us it matters what we write it with.


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Posted 06 December 2016 - 20:35

 I have no regrets upgrading my Kaigelu with the Titanium flex nib.  Writing experience with it is stellar !


I currently have an EF 18k gold nib on a TWSBI Eco; I suppose that could similarly be considered a bit absurd - but I love it! :-)

Verba volant, scripta manent


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Posted 06 December 2016 - 21:21

I currently have an EF 18k gold nib on a TWSBI Eco; I suppose that could similarly be considered a bit absurd - but I love it! :-)

The Eco is another example of an excellent budget pen, I have changed the nib in mine too.  I like your signature "Verba volant, scripta manent".  Thanks for sharing.


- Kaigelu 316 Modification (250 #6 Bock Nib / Beaufort Ink Converter)
- Titanium Bock Nib - Kaigelu 316 - Beaufort Ink

- Bock Rollerball Nib In Jinhao 886 Pen - Beaufort Ink Converter

- No affiliation with pen industry, just a pen hobbyist.

- It matters what you write, only for us it matters what we write it with.


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Posted 07 December 2016 - 06:12

The soul of the pen is in the nib, very nice modification. Would it be possibleo on Jinhao Shimmering Sands?



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Posted 07 December 2016 - 08:56

The soul of the pen is in the nib, very nice modification. Would it be possibleo on Jinhao Shimmering Sands?


I seriously doubt it, but I will check on this and let you know.

Edited by Frank66, 07 December 2016 - 08:59.

- Kaigelu 316 Modification (250 #6 Bock Nib / Beaufort Ink Converter)
- Titanium Bock Nib - Kaigelu 316 - Beaufort Ink

- Bock Rollerball Nib In Jinhao 886 Pen - Beaufort Ink Converter

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- It matters what you write, only for us it matters what we write it with.


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Posted 08 December 2016 - 11:04

I seriously doubt it, but I will check on this and let you know.

 

It seems the #6 Bock Titanium nib will easily fit my Jinhao x750 and x159 and the writing experience will be superb.  For someone who has changed their original Jinhao nib with a replacement #6 nib, this is not difficult to do at all.   Here is a writing sample:

 

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If it wasn't for you Aristosseur, I would not have tried it in a Jinhao, not in a million years, thanks so much for asking.  I will post more pictures as soon as I get the chance.  I hope I am not setting a new trend here, but one thing is for sure, I am ordering some more of these Ti nibs myself...


Edited by Frank66, 08 December 2016 - 11:15.

- Kaigelu 316 Modification (250 #6 Bock Nib / Beaufort Ink Converter)
- Titanium Bock Nib - Kaigelu 316 - Beaufort Ink

- Bock Rollerball Nib In Jinhao 886 Pen - Beaufort Ink Converter

- No affiliation with pen industry, just a pen hobbyist.

- It matters what you write, only for us it matters what we write it with.


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Posted 08 December 2016 - 11:26

Good combination! I've tried a few vintage nibs in modern pens in the past and now I'm looking forward to doing it again. Thanks for the inspiration. 



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Posted 08 December 2016 - 11:42

Good combination! I've tried a few vintage nibs in modern pens in the past and now I'm looking forward to doing it again. Thanks for the inspiration. 

 

Thanks alexander, I have added a few more pictures of writing samples with the Jinhao x750 and the #6 Bock Titanium EF nib. 

 

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Edited by Frank66, 08 December 2016 - 12:19.

- Kaigelu 316 Modification (250 #6 Bock Nib / Beaufort Ink Converter)
- Titanium Bock Nib - Kaigelu 316 - Beaufort Ink

- Bock Rollerball Nib In Jinhao 886 Pen - Beaufort Ink Converter

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- It matters what you write, only for us it matters what we write it with.


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Posted 08 December 2016 - 15:17

Nice looking combination I must say, well done!



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Posted 08 December 2016 - 15:56

Nice looking combination I must say, well done!

 

Thank you Shmurzik, I appreciate it.


Edited by Frank66, 08 December 2016 - 15:57.

- Kaigelu 316 Modification (250 #6 Bock Nib / Beaufort Ink Converter)
- Titanium Bock Nib - Kaigelu 316 - Beaufort Ink

- Bock Rollerball Nib In Jinhao 886 Pen - Beaufort Ink Converter

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- It matters what you write, only for us it matters what we write it with.


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Posted 08 December 2016 - 16:39

Yeah, it's certainly pretty impressive.

I'm sure the same nib will fit any Chinese #6 nibbed pens. The J X750 certainly deserves it, it looks as if the nib is made for that pen.

 

I've used a Bock titanium nib in a Delta Titanio I was loaned a few years ago, and must admit I wasn't keen on the force needed to flex it, about 150grams force or thereabouts (I measured it by pressing on electronic scales). That's a good deal more than my vintage flex nibs and was quite tiring to keep up. Having a new one, can you comment on the force needed on the current nibs? It may have changed over the years.

 

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Posted 09 December 2016 - 12:35

For a cheap pen it sure is pretty.....very pretty.....

thanks for the Waterman Green ink ....shades....and Of Course I need another green ink :wacko: ...it shades. Of Course I need another green shading ink. :D

 

Where can I find 15 pounds.....I do have spare nibs....A Degussa steel superflex...Easy Full Flex...if it fits.

That certainly is a very pretty 15 pound pen....with the pound so low....humm.

What's the name of that thing?

:angry: E28-42 buy now ain't all that cheap....not a single one used.

And some well known Parker lover just said it stomped the Duofold...and for only $32....the gold Duofold nib was not worth the extra $335 or so. 

 

Looks like a World Champion cheap  well priced pen....


Edited by Bo Bo Olson, 09 December 2016 - 12:41.

German vintage '50-70 semi-flex stubs and those in oblique give the real thing in On Demand line variation. Modern Oblique is a waste of money for a shadow of line variation. Being too lazy to Hunt for affordable vintage oblique pens, lets you 'hunt' for line variation instead of having it.

www.nibs.com/blog/nibster-writes/nibs-germany & https://www.peter-bo...cts/nib-systems,

 

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