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Baoer Issue (All My Pens): Doesn't Fit International Cartrigdes

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#1 Kev

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Posted 22 September 2016 - 14:11

Well, ummm...
I own several baoer fountain pens, each one ships with identical screw converters...that work pretty decently.
BUT: if I detach them and try to shove a international/standard/peilikan type cartridge, it simply doesn't fit.
If I do it by brute force, it results in most of times, a cracked cartridge and ink everywhere....or in the worst case a disassembled/pushed forward nib/feeder.
 
It's not just a single model/single package baoer pen, but 4models from different sellers and shapes.
 
Plz explain me: am I forced to use that default bad-looking, cheap converter?



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Posted 22 September 2016 - 19:01

Despite the name, there seems to be no real global standard/spec for an international converter/cartridge.

 

It is not only Baoer, but Jin Hao as well, and likely others.

The back of the section on a few of my Chinese pens are smaller in diameter than several of my international converters.  So I have to use their converters. 

I think similar for the cartridges.  You may have to buy Chinese cartridges, and hope that they fit.

 

Jin Hao also has a slim cartridge/converter, which adds to the confusion.  I bought some of those, thinking they were international size, and they do NOT fit.  The opening for the nipple is too small.

 

While the converter is cheap, it works, so don't get so worked up over it.  It is inside the pen and you only see it when you fill the pen.

Looking for a cartridge to fit, that is a different matter, and that is an irritation.

 

Tip, having to use force is usually a sign of a fit problem.


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Posted 03 October 2016 - 00:30

Well, ummm...
I own several baoer fountain pens, each one ships with identical screw converters...that work pretty decently.
BUT: if I detach them and try to shove a international/standard/peilikan type cartridge, it simply doesn't fit.
If I do it by brute force, it results in most of times, a cracked cartridge and ink everywhere....or in the worst case a disassembled/pushed forward nib/feeder.
 
It's not just a single model/single package baoer pen, but 4models from different sellers and shapes.
 
Plz explain me: am I forced to use that default bad-looking, cheap converter?

 

 

I don't have a Baoer pen, but have you looked at Jinhao ink cartridges?  They are longer and skinnier than the standard international short.

 

International short:  38.6mm long  7.4mm diameter

Jinhao:  52.3 mm long  6.7 mm diameter

 

I think there are some shorter Jinhao cartridges too, but they aren't as common.  Jinhao cartridges are way cheaper, but delivery from China can take a month.  They can be found on Amazon or aliexpress.

 

I've used both international short and jinhao cartridges in a Jinhao, so they attach to the same size sections.

 

Cheers,


Edited by frankb3, 03 October 2016 - 07:25.


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Posted 16 October 2016 - 17:12

well.. on these Baoer-s jinhao cartridges FIT. BUT..same jinhao cart. don't fit as well on pelikan prima penna, a pair of waterman, a bruin pen...

same thing with chinese converters: fit only on the pens they were attached to, and to none of my european pens.

so, I fear that standard international is not so standard.

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Posted 16 October 2016 - 19:33

Which they shouldn't, they were never made that way nor marketed that way. Hero, Wing Sung used to be the 2 major standard among the Chinese pen Mfr and their converter are all both incompatible with German ( so call international standard ). Its not the nner diameter of the nipple as well as the outer flange size that dictate. Hero's are 2.6mm and Wingsung use a 2.5mm inner diameter where the international standard are more like 2.1mm. There are older specific range of Chinese pen using a 3.2mm and 3.4mm nipple opening, only very few Chinese pen models utilize the ( German ) international standard.

 

I believe most of Jinhao and Baoer use the Hero's 2.6mm type



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Posted 17 October 2016 - 11:58

resume:
-chinese converters usually DO NOT FIT other pens other than that it came attached to (same model, not even same brand)
-jinhao cartridges usually FIT international pens: except for watermans (2/2 models I own don't fit)...still the longer,slimmer tip seems a bit loose and wobbly

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Posted 17 October 2016 - 13:21

In my Jinhao 601, a Waterman converter fits nicely.

 

So perhaps even a Waterman cartridge may fit..



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Posted 17 October 2016 - 18:05

In my Jinhao 601, a Waterman converter fits nicely.
 
So perhaps even a Waterman cartridge may fit..


try...but on the opposite, jinhao cartridges don't enter properly in waterman pens

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 06:41

So, could you solve your problem?

I want to give away a Baoer 3035 to a cartridge-only user.







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