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#1 northstar

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Posted 18 September 2016 - 18:24

I bought this pen from a dear friend sometimes back, but it was delievered to me last week, I was not able to find much information about this pen online, so wanted to share few pictures with all of you, if anyone got some information about this pen I will appreciate.

 

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Posted 18 September 2016 - 18:57

What a beautiful pen, thank you for sharing!



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Posted 18 September 2016 - 19:09

The real guys will know! But from the clip, the end logo, and the  shape, I'm guessing an M30 from the 60's done in solid gold! Yipes!!

 

 

A later entry with tail between legs.

 

Well, I  wasn't wrong on at least getting the look of the M30 right. But as Rusty points out and proves with the actual model listings, the M30 done in gold was dubbed the M100!.

 

Thanks Rusty and Sargetalon for the explanations!



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Posted 18 September 2016 - 19:29

it is a pelikan 100 from 1965 to my lame knowledge



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Posted 18 September 2016 - 20:16

This is a beautiful, beautiful pen, and it's clearly of that era (as per Dickkooty2).

Congratulations on a work of art that that should give you many years of writing pleasure.

 

 

Now for a bit of nerdiness...

 

I have a Mk20, a Mk30, a Pelikan 20 Silvexa, and a Pelikan 60 rolled gold. I also have a metal-bodied cartridge-filler (no idea of the model).

These five models all look exactly the same, at first glance - but there are two differences: size (length) and nib-shape.

 

Nib:

The Mk20, Mk30 and the Silvexa all have the same nib, which looks just like that on your Pelikan 100.

The cartridge-filler and the Pelikan 60 have the same shape of nib as each other, which is different from yours.

 

Length:

The Mk20 and Mk30 are the same size as one another (134mm, capped).

The Silvexa, the 60 and the metal-bodied cartridge-filler are the same size as one another (132mm); very slightly shorter than the Mk20 and Mk30.

 

What does this suggest about your specific pen?

My guess is that the Mk20 and Mk30 are earlier models (I'm sure I've seen a Mk10 somewhere), and that the 60 and metal body are a later design. I'd guess that the Silvexa is somewhere in-between; a transitional model between the earlier design (same nib as on the Mk20&30) and the updated design (same size as the 60 and the cartridge pen). The plastic on the Silvexa feels slightly lighter than the plastic of the other two plastic bodied pens; the Mk20 and Mk30.

 

If forced to bet, I'd say that your pen is the pinnacle of the earlier pens (i.e., rounds off the Mk10, 20, 30 series) and thus predict that it is of the larger size. I haven't looked, but the ruettinger website is often a good source on Pelikans.

 

So that you can see what I'm talking about, here is a photo of these five pens - apologies for the poor image quality. From bottom-to-top:

1. Metal cartridge-filler (unknown model, very light), steel nib

2. Pelikan 20 Silvexa, 14k nib

3. Mk20 (silver-coloured trim), 14k nib

4. Mk30 (gold trim), 14k nib

5. Pelikan 60 rolled gold, 18k nib

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#6 northstar

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Posted 19 September 2016 - 03:40

Thank you all for your informative comments and great pictures, the writing on the cap clearly says Pelikan 100 (2nd & 5th pictures show it clearly).

 

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Posted 19 September 2016 - 04:25

What a pen!

Congrats.
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#8 northstar

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Posted 19 September 2016 - 05:15

Thank you Christof.


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Posted 19 September 2016 - 17:48

:notworthy1: :thumbup:

 

How's the nib....semi-flex or regular flex?

 

I ask that in no one ever mentioned that back when chasing semi-flex so I stayed away from spade nibs.

Since then I've discovered there are an occasional semi-flex spade nib.


German vintage '50-70 semi-flex stubs and those in oblique give the real thing in On Demand line variation. Modern Oblique is a waste of money for a shadow of line variation. Being too lazy to Hunt for affordable vintage oblique pens, lets you 'hunt' for line variation instead of having it.

www.nibs.com/blog/nibster-writes/nibs-germany & https://www.peter-bo...cts/nib-systems,

 

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Posted 19 September 2016 - 18:22

:notworthy1: :thumbup:
 
How's the nib....semi-flex or regular flex?
 
I ask that in no one ever mentioned that back when chasing semi-flex so I stayed away from spade nibs.
Since then I've discovered there are an occasional semi-flex spade nib.


Hello Bo Bo :)

I had to go through your signature trying to find what a regular flex means ;) I will assume it means flex, I think the nib for the pen is a semi flex to flex, some where in between.

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Posted 19 September 2016 - 19:20

Hi northstar,

 

 

It is a  m100 14ct gold guilloche made from 2/1966 until 7/1970.  :)

 

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Posted 19 September 2016 - 19:39

Hi northstar,
 
 
It is a  m100 14ct gold guilloche made from 2/1966 until 7/1970.  :)
 
rusty


Thank you for the great information rusty :)

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Posted 19 September 2016 - 19:44

You are welcome !  :)



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Posted 20 September 2016 - 01:58

Beautiful pen.  If I recall correctly, they didn't make a lot of these M100 gold guilloche pens.  A fine addition to any flock.  Congrats!


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#15 northstar

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Posted 20 September 2016 - 02:46

Beautiful pen.  If I recall correctly, they didn't make a lot of these M100 gold guilloche pens.  A fine addition to any flock.  Congrats!


Thank you sargetalon, yes it seems there are very few of this available.

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Posted 20 September 2016 - 13:01

I am glad your spade nib, is a maxi-semi-flex.

I ran into a Mulscher(sp) cheap Reform with a maxi-semi-flex spade nib and a MB I saw but din't buy at a live auction.... but also ran into a 3XX MB spade nib that was a nail. All spade nibs I tested at flea markets were nails....so out side my Dupont never bought any...

As I mentioned, in no one was bragging their semi-flex spade nibs...I couldn't afford to gamble so didn't.

 

I use a 1/2 & 1/2 pressure system that works for me....All the way out to Superflex, to Wet Noodle and past. In Superflex it's only a 'noobie's guide in the more superflex nibs one has the less defining one can actually do. But it lets 'noobies' and folks with lesser amounts of spuerflex be close enough for horseshoes.

 

If one mashes a semi-vintage or vintage 'true' regular flex (or a 200),  a tine spread of 3 X a light stroke, a semi-flex needs only half that pressure to reach 3 X tine spread a light line.

Maxi-semi-flex half of that, or 1/4th the pressure needed to mash a 'true' regular flex to a 3 X time spread.

(This is not a superflex in it has a 3X tine limit & the first stage of Superflex....Easy Full Flex needs half that pressure to spread it's tines 4-5-6 or in rare cases 7X a light down stroke. 1/8th the pressure needed to mash a 'true' regular flex to 3 X.

 

I would guess your pen has a maxi-semi-flex nib. It's not marked and I have pens like a 400 with both, a 400n that is only semi-flex and a 400nn that is maxi....along with an Ibis and a 500. You picked your nib at the corner pen shop. One could get a Hard H nib, or a nails Nail the D, or semi-flex or maxi-semi-flex............regular flex was on the the school pen...120, who's nib fit a 400.

 

The only pen company that differentiates clearly, is Osmia...the nib with a number in a Diamond is semi-flex, Supra is maxi-semi-flex. 

 

'True' Regular flex, semi-flex and maxi-semi-flex are all in the 3 X tine spread set...and should not be pushed beyond that.

 

Works for Superflex too but that's not needed here.

 

I keep calling 'old' regular flex, 'true' regular flex....in that was a flex that was often used by most pen makers....Pelikan's 120 and 200's are 'true' regular flex. Many companies, including Pelikan out side of the 200,  now have semi-nail instead of regular flex like in their 400/600. Too many ham fisted cross over Ball Point Barbarians, bent too many nibs...so to save repair costs regular flex was replaced by semi-nail....of course with out telling anyone..... :( of course.

 

Some folks coming over from nail and semi-nail....like a P-75 or the modern 400/600 run into 'true' regular flex the first time and think it's semi-flex...it's not. It's a nice springy ride with a touch of tine spread if one is a bit heavy handed.

 

I use to be a semi-flex snob... :o :rolleyes: , but have come to like the 'true' regular flex nib in depending on ink and paper often is a better shading nib, in it is a bit dryer than semi&maxi.


German vintage '50-70 semi-flex stubs and those in oblique give the real thing in On Demand line variation. Modern Oblique is a waste of money for a shadow of line variation. Being too lazy to Hunt for affordable vintage oblique pens, lets you 'hunt' for line variation instead of having it.

www.nibs.com/blog/nibster-writes/nibs-germany & https://www.peter-bo...cts/nib-systems,

 

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Posted 20 September 2016 - 13:41

I am glad your spade nib, is a maxi-semi-flex.


Thank you for such a detailed explanation Bo Bo :)

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