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#1 DanDeM

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Posted 14 September 2016 - 00:19

Can the Roller Ball section be replaced by a Fountain Pen section?

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Posted 14 September 2016 - 00:23

Yes. Just unscrew the rollerball attachment and install the fountain pen nib unit. I've done this a couple of times and it seems to work well - no trouble placing the cap on the pen when you switch from one assembly to the other. Good luck!

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#3 DanDeM

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Posted 14 September 2016 - 18:32

Yes. Just unscrew the rollerball attachment and install the fountain pen nib unit. I've done this a couple of times and it seems to work well - no trouble placing the cap on the pen when you switch from one assembly to the other. Good luck!

 

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Posted 14 September 2016 - 19:50

Yes, you can get replacement nibs from Cross. They include the section.  :)

 

I had always assumed that is why the rollerballs were called the "Selectip" model... because you could select which 'tip' you wanted to install. I could be wrong on that though. 



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Posted 14 September 2016 - 23:27

Yes, you can get replacement nibs from Cross. They include the section.  :)

 

I had always assumed that is why the rollerballs were called the "Selectip" model... because you could select which 'tip' you wanted to install. I could be wrong on that though. 

 

And thank you too.

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Posted 15 September 2016 - 00:04

I ended up sending my Townsend nib out for a custom grind because the fine nibs are so uncommon to come across... The steel nibs, last I checked, were ~$40 directly from Cross, but the 18K ones are ~$150.  :(



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Posted 15 September 2016 - 13:46

Yes, you can get replacement nibs from Cross. They include the section.  :)

 

I had always assumed that is why the rollerballs were called the "Selectip" model... because you could select which 'tip' you wanted to install. I could be wrong on that though. 

 

They call it that because the same section accepts jumbo ballpoint, gel roller, and felt tip refills (so it's a "SelecTip" section, not a rollerball section).  I really liked the liquid ink rollers before Cross replaced them with gel -- incredibly smooth.


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Posted 15 September 2016 - 23:12

 

They call it that because the same section accepts jumbo ballpoint, gel roller, and felt tip refills (so it's a "SelecTip" section, not a rollerball section).  

 

Ahhh! That makes perfect sense. Then it's just convenient (and a manufacturing savings) that the body is identical to the fountain pen bodies enabling either section to be attached.



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Posted 16 September 2016 - 01:28

Yes, and other manufacturers do the same.  Often there's a spring up in the barrel to hold e.g. rollerball refills in place, and it has to be pulled out to make room for a converter if a fountain pen section is used.


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Posted 17 September 2016 - 20:41

Bear in mind that often the cap liners are different, so make sure your precious gold nibs aren't damaged when pushing it in a RB-cap.

 

 

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Posted 19 September 2016 - 12:41

Bear in mind that often the cap liners are different, so make sure your precious gold nibs aren't damaged when pushing it in a RB-cap.

 

 

D.ick

 

They aren't.  Cross is one pen where it is very easy to convert by inserting a nib assembly into the pen.  You don't even have to do anything with the barrel.  I've done it with quite a few of the current models.


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Posted 19 September 2016 - 16:28

 

They aren't.  Cross is one pen where it is very easy to convert by inserting a nib assembly into the pen.  You don't even have to do anything with the barrel.  I've done it with quite a few of the current models.

 

MB 144 is another like Cross, in case this has crossed anyone's mind.  Convert on.


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Posted 19 September 2016 - 16:40

MB 144 is another like Cross, in case this has crossed anyone's mind.  Convert on.

 

Except that a Cross Townsend is a better pen.  :D


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Posted 20 September 2016 - 00:56

Damn!

 

When the trolls are gone this board is terrific. Convivial, civil, sharing.

The only thing missing from this conversation is beer and peanuts.

Thank you all.

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Posted 22 September 2016 - 16:02

Goldspot has the 'fine' nibs available



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Posted 25 September 2016 - 11:03

Goldspot has the 'fine' nibs available


Good to know! Although in my eBay haunts, I've discovered that Cross used to make an XF nib as well... One of these days I'll see one for sale when I'm feeling a little flush, and give one of those a try. :-)

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Posted 26 December 2016 - 01:30

Yes, you can get replacement nibs from Cross. They include the section.  :)

 

I had always assumed that is why the rollerballs were called the "Selectip" model... because you could select which 'tip' you wanted to install. I could be wrong on that though. 

The Selectip replaced the Soft tip felt tip pen. You could "select either a felt tip, Rollerball (ball point) or document highlighter refill. Still using some of the refills I bought back then.



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Posted 27 December 2016 - 03:01

 

Except that a Cross Townsend is a better pen.  :D

 

 

There needs to be a "like very much" button on this forum. My 144R is in the case, maybe I'll ink it one day...when it's the only pen I have left.



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Posted 28 December 2016 - 02:44

The economics are also interesting. The two townsends I own started out as rollerballs. I simply purchased the stainless steel nib units separately and I now own two great fountain pens at a fraction of the cost!

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Posted 07 October 2017 - 22:26

Can the Roller Ball section be replaced by a Fountain Pen section?

Thnkx in advance.

simply put - YES

fit perfectly and works woderfully well

 

the only down side is that he FPs have a dot on the top of the cap and the RBs do not

so for a person who knows Cross pens it would be obvious what you ha done

 

plus sid eis the economics already refered to up there

 

i have 6 Townsend FPs, and one (a Black and Tango) was so converted


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