Jump to content

Recently Ventured Outside The World Of Montblanc


Psychor

Recommended Posts

http://i.imgur.com/qIKk3Kkl.jpg

 

More pictures here: https://imgur.com/a/F8Z4M.
So the good news is that I inked up the FP and it looks great. What isn't so good is that when I try to write with it the experience is quite "scratchy" for lack of a better word. Keep in mind that I consider myself a FP newbie, but I do own a few new Montblancs and have yet to experience a similar issue with those.
Drawing a horizontal line left to right isn't so bad, but drawing a horizontal line right to left generates quite a racket along with an often broken line. Any idea what might be going on?
Thanks.
Edited by Psychor
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 20
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

  • Bo Bo Olson

    5

  • Psychor

    5

  • Calabria

    4

  • sargetalon

    2

Sounds like the right tine (looking down on the top of the upwards pointing nib) is lower than the left one. Don't know if you have any experience checking for this, and evening up the tines, but there is plenty of info, on how to safely do so with a loupe and nimble fingers, on the internet.

 

Good luck!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Agreed. Misaligned tines sounds very likely. A loupe will go a long way to helping diagnose and correct this. Should not be a big deal to fix if that's the cause.

PELIKAN - Too many birds in the flock to count. My pen chest has proven to be a most fertile breeding ground.

fpn_1508261203__fpn_logo_300x150.jpg

THE PELIKAN'S PERCH - A growing reference site for all things Pelikan

Link to comment
Share on other sites

A 10-12X loupe with good coated glass, BelOMO triplet loupe is worth considering as well. Like the Bausch & Lomb, it has a reputation for accuracy and retails for less than $50.

20X is too strong.

 

There are also lighted loupes....for a bit more.

 

This is a once in a life time buy, good also for hallmarks, coins and stamps....splinters. :)

Nope, a honking big thick magnifying glass just won't do. :(

 

You need two rubber ear syringes, one with the normal end, good for cleaning out the body of Pelikan or Geha or any twist out nibbed pen bodies and C/C pens...the second to have the spout cut so it fits on the screw out nib.

 

A needle syringe is good for refilling the super expensive cartridges of cartridge pens.

 

 

If you don't buy at the shop....and you can your self, knock your nib out of alignment with a small bang against something....getting misaligned nibs even new out the box, much less used is par for the course.

 

Once you have looked at the nib and press the up nib from the breather hole down gently for two-three seconds 3-4 times. That normally does the trick.....you can of course use your loupe after each try....but after a while I just do the 3-4 set before taking a look at it. Often that is all it needs. It is seldom that one needs to do more, but that is why you have a good loupe.

 

Buying a cheap loupe on Ebay...how many times are you planning to buy it?

They have loupes listed at 30X that others say are not even truly 10X.

 

Paper 90g laser paper is the minimum, if you want your shading ink to shade, out side of Rhoda 80g and a Japanese 70g paper....which has good coating. MB has some good shading inks as does Pelikan and a number of other companies. I chase 'two toned' shading inks rather than 'boring' mono-tone vivid supersaturated high maintenance inks....of course if you have only EF or XXF nibs....Japanese F&EF stay away from shading inks.

In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

 

 

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Sorry, I'm going to disagree with the posters above. You wrote that you are new to fountain pens. Therefore, don't attempt to adjust it yourself. Instead, contact the shop where you bought it and explain the problem. If they can't fix it for you ask for a refund on the basis that it's faulty. I'll leave it to other FPN members to recommend suitable alternative vendors for that model.

HTH,

 

Martin

The Writing Desk

Fountain Pen Specialists since 2000

Facebook

Twitter

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Sorry, I'm going to disagree with the posters above. You wrote that you are new to fountain pens. Therefore, don't attempt to adjust it yourself. Instead, contact the shop where you bought it and explain the problem. If they can't fix it for you ask for a refund on the basis that it's faulty. I'll leave it to other FPN members to recommend suitable alternative vendors for that model.

 

HTH,

 

Martin

Agreed. This is one of Pelikan's top models. It should write like a dream out of the box. If that is not the case, someone mishandled the pen along the way from QC to customer. Get an exchange or refund.

"If you can spend a perfectly useless afternoon in a perfectly useless manner, you have learned how to live."

– Lin Yu-T'ang

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I just wanted to say THANK YOU to all of you who have chimed in. :D

 

I'm going to look for a nice loupe on Amazon. If you have any links that you care to share please send them my way.

 

I've been in talks, via email, with the gentleman I purchased the pen from and will keep you all posted.

Edited by Psychor
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I just wanted to say THANK YOU to all of you who have chimed in. :D

 

I'm going to look for a nice loupe on Amazon. If you have any links that you care to share please send them my way.

 

I've been in talks, via email, with the gentleman I purchased the pen from and will keep you all posted.

 

I think that a loupe is always useful. However I would recommend you follow twdpens advice.

Edited by Matlock

Peter

Link to comment
Share on other sites

 

I think that a loupe is always useful. However I would recommend you follow twdpens advice.

 

I simply meant that I plan to purchase a good loupe, not that I would attempt my own repair.

 

Sorry, I'm going to disagree with the posters above. You wrote that you are new to fountain pens. Therefore, don't attempt to adjust it yourself. Instead, contact the shop where you bought it and explain the problem. If they can't fix it for you ask for a refund on the basis that it's faulty. I'll leave it to other FPN members to recommend suitable alternative vendors for that model.

 

HTH,

 

Martin

 

I contacted the person that I bought the pen from and they've been great in terms of helping me get this resolved. They set up a nib replacement via Chartpak Inc - I'm sending my nib to them tomorrow. Is anyone familiar with this company?

Edited by Psychor
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Chartpack is the US vender for warranted repairs. When out of warrantee cost a lot more than sending it to Pelikan in Hanover, which is free.

In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

 

 

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

 

I simply meant that I plan to purchase a good loupe, not that I would attempt my own repair.

 

 

I contacted the person that I bought the pen from and they've been great in terms of helping me get this resolved. They set up a nib replacement via Chartpak Inc - I'm sending my nib to them tomorrow. Is anyone familiar with this company?

They are Pelikan's North American distributor and handle all nib exchanges and warranty claims on domestic purchases. They don't do repairs but rather just swap parts so you'll get your pen back with an entirely different nib.

PELIKAN - Too many birds in the flock to count. My pen chest has proven to be a most fertile breeding ground.

fpn_1508261203__fpn_logo_300x150.jpg

THE PELIKAN'S PERCH - A growing reference site for all things Pelikan

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Chartpack is the US vender for warranted repairs. When out of warrantee cost a lot more than sending it to Pelikan in Hanover, which is free.

 

Good to know. There is no charge to me.

 

They are Pelikan's North American distributor and handle all nib exchanges and warranty claims on domestic purchases. They don't do repairs but rather just swap parts so you'll get your pen back with an entirely different nib.

 

Good to know. I was told to only send in the nib.

 

Thanks all.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

 

Good to know. There is no charge to me.

 

 

Good to know. I was told to only send in the nib.

 

Thanks all.

You should be very specific about the kind of exchange you want - Pelikan nib points do vary in size and a good customer service rep (I.e. Abbi at Chartpak) can usually pick the one closest to what you desire. Good luck!

"If you can spend a perfectly useless afternoon in a perfectly useless manner, you have learned how to live."

– Lin Yu-T'ang

Link to comment
Share on other sites

You should be very specific about the kind of exchange you want - Pelikan nib points do vary in size and a good customer service rep (I.e. Abbi at Chartpak) can usually pick the one closest to what you desire. Good luck!

 

What do you mean? The person I bought it from called into Chartpak to set up the replacement. I'm sending Chartpak an EF Pelikan nib and expect to receive the same type back.

Edited by Psychor
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Nibs vary in tolerance....if you go to the Sheaffer sub section, in the pinned section is Rod Zorn's fisit to Janesville just as the factory closed down.

With in the standard there is tolerance....so a skinny M can exactly equal a fat F. Or be 1/100's of an inch away from that....when you want the middle of tolerance.

 

I had checked out on 'poorer' B&M shop paper a MB Woolf and the M was as expected a B, which I wanted. At home on better paper it was only a M :wacko: .

So I sent it in and did not specify I wanted in modern MB is a normally a fatter nib than vintage a B on the narrow side. I got sent a fat B=BB. :yikes: :wallbash:

 

Do tell them if you want a fat EF, middle or thin EF. :happyberet:

In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

 

 

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Nibs vary in tolerance....if you go to the Sheaffer sub section, in the pinned section is Rod Zorn's fisit to Janesville just as the factory closed down.

With in the standard there is tolerance....so a skinny M can exactly equal a fat F. Or be 1/100's of an inch away from that....when you want the middle of tolerance.

 

I had checked out on 'poorer' B&M shop paper a MB Woolf and the M was as expected a B, which I wanted. At home on better paper it was only a M :wacko: .

So I sent it in and did not specify I wanted in modern MB is a normally a fatter nib than vintage a B on the narrow side. I got sent a fat B=BB. :yikes: :wallbash:

 

Do tell them if you want a fat EF, middle or thin EF. :happyberet:

Thanks for explaining, BoBo. Btw, B&M paper is notoriously misleading. I always bring my own. I also noticed last time I wanted to try out a Pelikan EF (which runs wide), they quickly shoved the Rhodia paper over (which is so glassy that every nib appears a size smaller). It was a Spy vs. Spy moment! 😬

"If you can spend a perfectly useless afternoon in a perfectly useless manner, you have learned how to live."

– Lin Yu-T'ang

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Perhaps runs wide compared to Japanese....perhaps runs wide in Modern....how ever I have an old chart that shows Pelikan EF as narrower than Parker, Sheaffer, and both the fat and skinny Waterman nib sets....If I remember correctly the 800, which was narrower than the 90's nibs EF was @ the same width as the other Pelikans.

The chart is so old, it don't even show a Japanese pen, but does show the supper fat Conway Stewart. From what I understand Japanese pens really didn't get mainstream until the the mid '90's. (I did have a Sheaffer made in Japan from the '60's or there abouts. It was a nail so I sold it.)

 

So Buy '90's semi-vintage and or '50-60's Vintage German, Geha, Pelikan, Kaweco, MB or Soennecken ...in they run 1/2 size narrower than modern....and are much cheaper. :D The springy 'true' regular flex 200's nibs are also 1/2 a width narrower than a modern 400/600.

 

I don't care for the fat and blobby semi-nails of the modern 400/600's.

In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

 

 

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Perhaps runs wide compared to Japanese....perhaps runs wide in Modern....how ever I have an old chart that shows Pelikan EF as narrower than Parker, Sheaffer, and both the fat and skinny Waterman nib sets....If I remember correctly the 800, which was narrower than the 90's nibs EF was @ the same width as the other Pelikans.

The chart is so old, it don't even show a Japanese pen, but does show the supper fat Conway Stewart. From what I understand Japanese pens really didn't get mainstream until the the mid '90's. (I did have a Sheaffer made in Japan from the '60's or there abouts. It was a nail so I sold it.)

 

So Buy '90's semi-vintage and or '50-60's Vintage German, Geha, Pelikan, Kaweco, MB or Soennecken ...in they run 1/2 size narrower than modern....and are much cheaper. :D The springy 'true' regular flex 200's nibs are also 1/2 a width narrower than a modern 400/600.

 

I don't care for the fat and blobby semi-nails of the modern 400/600's.

Yeah - my recently bought semi-vintage m800 EF from the 90s is very fine indeed, and springy (not flex). But I also like the wider current nibs. They are shaped quite nicely (if you're lucky and get a good one). I compare them to the Naginata Togi nib - you can hold them like a brush and write on the tip, or upside down, or at an angle to get fine to wider strokes.

 

My theory is that Pelikan is selling more to the Asian market now and has adjusted the nib for a different way of holding the pen (vertical instead of at an angle).

"If you can spend a perfectly useless afternoon in a perfectly useless manner, you have learned how to live."

– Lin Yu-T'ang

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Most Contributions

  • Upcoming Events

  • Blog Comments

    • Shanghai Knife Dude
      I have the Sailor Naginata and some fancy blade nibs coming after 2022 by a number of new workshop from China.  With all my respect, IMHO, they are all (bleep) in doing chinese characters.  Go use a bush, or at least a bush pen. 
    • A Smug Dill
      It is the reason why I'm so keen on the idea of a personal library — of pens, nibs, inks, paper products, etc. — and spent so much money, as well as time and effort, to “build” it for myself (because I can't simply remember everything, especially as I'm getting older fast) and my wife, so that we can “know”; and, instead of just disposing of what displeased us, or even just not good enough to be “given the time of day” against competition from >500 other pens and >500 other inks for our at
    • adamselene
      Agreed.  And I think it’s good to be aware of this early on and think about at the point of buying rather than rationalizing a purchase..
    • A Smug Dill
      Alas, one cannot know “good” without some idea of “bad” against which to contrast; and, as one of my former bosses (back when I was in my twenties) used to say, “on the scale of good to bad…”, it's a spectrum, not a dichotomy. Whereas subjectively acceptable (or tolerable) and unacceptable may well be a dichotomy to someone, and finding whether the threshold or cusp between them lies takes experiencing many degrees of less-than-ideal, especially if the decision is somehow influenced by factors o
    • adamselene
      I got my first real fountain pen on my 60th birthday and many hundreds of pens later I’ve often thought of what I should’ve known in the beginning. I have many pens, the majority of which have some objectionable feature. If they are too delicate, or can’t be posted, or they are too precious to face losing , still they are users, but only in very limited environments..  I have a big disliking for pens that have the cap jump into the air and fly off. I object to Pens that dry out, or leave blobs o
  • Chatbox

    You don't have permission to chat.
    Load More
  • Files






×
×
  • Create New...