Absolutely Can't Identify This Vintage Gold Filled Parker

[flipper_gv]

My only reasonable guess is that it is a Parker Duette Premier Modern. But, apparently those were never made in gold filled finish.

 

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-art-collectibles/laval-rive-nord/stylo-plume-fountain-pen-plume-fontaine/1172189659?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

[peterg]

Looks like a ladies streamline Duofold to me

[flipper_gv]

Looks like a ladies streamline Duofold to me

 

The section isn't right.

[peterg]

It's the same section as on my three chatelaines and a red marble ladies streamline Duofold (just what I had to hand). The shape changed from the original shouldered section to one similar to the Vacumatics on the streamline.

[flipper_gv]

^thanks!

[Lazard 20]

Although it was out of known catalog, it is not unusual to see gold coatings made by Parker in some of their Duofolds.

 

Edited July 24, 2016 by Lazard 20

[Vintagepens]

At this point, I think it would be safer not to say, "made by Parker", in describing these overlays. We still don't know if the European-market overlay Duofolds were official Parker products, as the overlays may well have been installed by other parties without Parker's approval. If the overlays were in fact Parker-approved, it is virtually certain that they were not made by Parker, as they are very much European in style.

 

I hope someday we will find catalogs or advertisements that tell us more.

[Lazard 20]

Reasonably thing would be to have some evidence before stating that it did not have the approval of Parker. On the other hand Parker runs the company but we all know that there is no evidence that he would make overlays, so just as it is reasonably understandable to say colloquially that this overlays were made by Parker if these overlays were in fact Parker-approved.

 

At this point and while having PARKER DUOFOLD imprint in these overlay imprint, with imprint of the purity of gold too, found in a important market for Parker as France market, could be a nonsense, without proof, say these overlays were made virtually certain without Parker's approval.

In the French market commercialize gold below 18 karat could have been a significant crime and Parker would never have allowed sell gold in France under their PARKER DUOFOLD patented names next to gold quality imprint without their own control of the gold purity.

Edited July 24, 2016 by Lazard 20

[Vintagepens]

Lazard, the pen in your photos appears to be marked "18 K. R." -- is that correct?

 

If so, the overlay is Italian, R = "rinforzato", meaning laminated or rolled gold.

As is very well documented, there was very weak enforcement of trademark law in Italy in the first half of the 20th century, with many entrepreneurs taking imported pens of plain design and mounting them with Italian overlays, which were stamped with the penmaker's name without the penmaker's permission. The best-known instances of this sort of partial counterfeiting are the many Waterman safeties with unauthorized Italian overlays.