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Can anyone provide me with some information on the a Conway Stewart 417 black hard rubber lever fill ring-top fountain pen with 14ct nib.

 

The pen measures 13.5 cms posted and 10.5 cms capped. It has a screw on cap. The nib has no C/S logo it is marked 14 ct.

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Superb color. Your 1938 pen looks absolutely right, the only doubt I have on originality is the nib, I havent seen a Conway Stewart nib without the makers marks, it does look contemporary with the pen however.

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Thanks for the reply. I too doubt the originality of the nib but as you say it does look the part.

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Thanks for the reply. I too doubt the originality of the nib but as you say it does look the part.

 

 

Possibly the section is not Conway Stewart either, still very attractive IMHO.

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I know the Book of Numbers gives a 1938 date, but I am sceptical. This looks earlier than that - more like 1928. Can you post decent pics of the lever and the barrel markings.

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On viewing the lever through a jewellers glass it appears to have been broken as the top is not cleanly finished. As for the barrel it has the C/S logo and the number 417. The photographs above are the best I can do as the imprint is very poor.

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There comes a moment in all vintage pen collecting and restoration when you need to make a decision.

 

Right now your pen is a different color from the original gloss back, it may have the wrong section and almost certainly has the wrong nib. The lever is not perfect.

 

It is an uncommon pen but will not buy you a Porsche if you wanted to sell it. To improve it you could send it to David Wells at:

 

http://www.old-pens.co.uk/

 

Although what you would ask him to do I am not sure, you could spend £30 on a CS5 nib, perhaps a CS section and to do something with the lever. You may have a pen that could worth £60 when you have finished.

 

If the pen works as it should then I would leave it alone and enjoy the fact that the pen has seen a bit of life.

 

I have pens from this period that look a little worn and have replacement nibs - usually better than the original -some brassing, faint imprint, perhaps even a crack or too but as long as they work then I would enjoy them for what they are.

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Throwing my cap into the arena, it looks like one of the American Conway Stewart's, so would date from about 1915-20.

 

Being bought in products from various American manufacturers they bare few 'classic' CS traits (e.g. section or CS symbol on the filling lever), and the early pen nibs were just 14 c, with no manufacturer's mark. Depending on the manufacture's stamp I would date it towards the end of the First World War.

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Can we say that it is a "Ladies" chatelaine pen, being a ring top, and 10.5 cms capped?

 

Is that a straight/spatula lever? If it is, then it would support the theory that it is possibly of American origin.

 

Whatever, it is a nice find. :thumbup:

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