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Hi all, I recently found these two Parkers at a Goodwill near my apartment. I was just wondering what year they're from, what they're worth, et cetera. I can provide more picture if wanted. The one on top is a Vacumatic, and the bottom is a Duofold. Thanks in advance!

 

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There should be a date code at the right end of the barrel imprint.

 

This link should help you decipher the date codes: http://parkerpens.net/codekey.html

 

Awesome find! I'm lucky if I can find a decent necktie at my Goodwill :)

Parker: Sonnet Flighter, Rialto Red Metallic Laque, IM Chiseled Gunmetal, Latitude Stainless, 45 Black, Duovac Blue Pearl Striped, 51 Standard Black, Vac Jr. Black, 51 Aero Black, 51 Vac Blue Cedar, Duofold Jr. Lapis, 51 Aero Demi Black, 51 Aero Demi Teal, 51 Aero Navy Gray, Duofold Pastel Moire Violet, Vac Major Golden Brown, Vac Deb. Emerald, 51 Vac Dove Gray, Vac Major Azure, Vac Jr. Silver Pearl, 51 Vac Black GF Cap, 51 Forest Green GF cap, Vac Jr. Silver Pearl, Duovac Senior Green & Gold, Duovac Deb. Black, Challenger Black, 51 Aero Midnight, Vac. Emerald Jr., Challenger Gray Pearl, 51 Vac Black, Duofold Int. Black, Duofold Jr. Red.

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Apparently the top is a 1936 Vacumatic, and the bottom is a Duovac. The link you provided says that it was produced in 1940

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Apparently the top is a 1936 Vacumatic, and the bottom is a Duovac. The link you provided says that it was produced in 1940

Call it a vacumatic filled Duofold. Parker called it a Duofold. Long story.

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Call it a vacumatic filled Duofold. Parker called it a Duofold. Long story.

 

Why not call it a Vac Duofold?

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Why not call it a Vac Duofold?

 

Some of the pens in that series were more conventional button fillers with sacs. Some collectors are bothered by applying the name "Duovac" to the whole line of pens, but that name and "Vac Duofold" would be fine for the pen in the question.

Parker: Sonnet Flighter, Rialto Red Metallic Laque, IM Chiseled Gunmetal, Latitude Stainless, 45 Black, Duovac Blue Pearl Striped, 51 Standard Black, Vac Jr. Black, 51 Aero Black, 51 Vac Blue Cedar, Duofold Jr. Lapis, 51 Aero Demi Black, 51 Aero Demi Teal, 51 Aero Navy Gray, Duofold Pastel Moire Violet, Vac Major Golden Brown, Vac Deb. Emerald, 51 Vac Dove Gray, Vac Major Azure, Vac Jr. Silver Pearl, 51 Vac Black GF Cap, 51 Forest Green GF cap, Vac Jr. Silver Pearl, Duovac Senior Green & Gold, Duovac Deb. Black, Challenger Black, 51 Aero Midnight, Vac. Emerald Jr., Challenger Gray Pearl, 51 Vac Black, Duofold Int. Black, Duofold Jr. Red.

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Why not call it a Vac Duofold?

Because it isn't a Vacumatic.

The pens made of this material that are Vacumatics are marked Vacumatic. They also sport a Vacumatic style cap band and a Vacumatic split arrow clip.

 

Since the barrel of the pen in question is marked Duofold lets just call it a Duofold.

 

Or that would be my reasoning.

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Because it isn't a Vacumatic.

 

The pens made of this material that are Vacumatics are marked Vacumatic. They also sport a Vacumatic style cap band and a Vacumatic split arrow clip.

 

Since the barrel of the pen in question is marked Duofold lets just call it a Duofold.

 

Or that would be my reasoning.

Yes. But why can't we use the analogy behind the term "Vac 51s"? The Vac 51s are vacumatic fill pens but since these are not Vacumatics but 51s these are called Vac 51s.

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Yes. But why can't we use the analogy behind the term "Vac 51s"? The Vac 51s are vacumatic fill pens but since these are not Vacumatics but 51s these are called Vac 51s.

I suppose we could adapt this but the vacumatic filled "51" would just be a "51" as it was first but then of course came the Aerometric "51" leading us to differentiate the two by appending the filling mechanism/method at the front such as in red-band "51" or cartridge "51". So I guess it becomes natural that we shorten the vacumatic filled "51" to vac-51 but we don't shorten cartridge "51" to cart-51 or likewise do we have a band-51 or a red-51 (boy that would be confusing) or a RB-51 though I suppose we could take these nomenclature shortcuts.

 

BUT, a Vacufold refers specifically to a Vacumatic pen that is in all ways a Vacumatic pen except it is made with the striped Duofold material.

 

In the end we can call our pens anything we want as long as we don't call them pins.

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Yes. But why can't we use the analogy behind the term "Vac 51s"? The Vac 51s are vacumatic fill pens but since these are not Vacumatics but 51s these are called Vac 51s.

 

That is an issue that I have felt is at the crux of the naming of the Vacumatic-fill Duofolds. The "Duofold" name has been around since 1921 and has been given to several lines of Parker pens in different countries since: flattops & streamlined (1921-late 1930s), geometric a.k.a "Toothbrush" (1939-40), striped (1940-48), UK (1946-Late 1960s), and now the modern Duofolds (1988-Present).

 

The official name for all these pens is "Duofold," but obviously the collecting community created different names for each pen to differentiate between each version.

 

Personally, I think "Vac Duofold" is fine since only the striped Duofolds were Vac-fill, but as FarmBoy and Glenn mentioned there is a scarce Vacumatic in the striped Duofold plastic dubbed by collectors as the "Vacufold."

Parker: Sonnet Flighter, Rialto Red Metallic Laque, IM Chiseled Gunmetal, Latitude Stainless, 45 Black, Duovac Blue Pearl Striped, 51 Standard Black, Vac Jr. Black, 51 Aero Black, 51 Vac Blue Cedar, Duofold Jr. Lapis, 51 Aero Demi Black, 51 Aero Demi Teal, 51 Aero Navy Gray, Duofold Pastel Moire Violet, Vac Major Golden Brown, Vac Deb. Emerald, 51 Vac Dove Gray, Vac Major Azure, Vac Jr. Silver Pearl, 51 Vac Black GF Cap, 51 Forest Green GF cap, Vac Jr. Silver Pearl, Duovac Senior Green & Gold, Duovac Deb. Black, Challenger Black, 51 Aero Midnight, Vac. Emerald Jr., Challenger Gray Pearl, 51 Vac Black, Duofold Int. Black, Duofold Jr. Red.

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Thanks guys, thanks for all the responses. Still haven't been able to price then but I feel very lucky

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