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Hi, picked up this flat band and arrow clip modern duofold yesterday at the lichfield pen show, sorry for the poor pictures. It,s looks much lighter than the normal burgundy we know, even colour all over not faded. Anyone come across before. Thanks Gary

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That's too light for the red marble. I think that's a prototype you've found - congratulations, I'm jealous!

 

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Aha!

 

I knew I'd seen it somewhere - here is a ballpoint in the same finish which is for sale on Hanspens.com I am sure that he had a pen a while back as well.

 

http://www.hanspens.com/DuofProtoBP-L.jpg

 

It's rather nice autumnal corned beef shade, isn't it? I really like it, but at the same time can see why it didn't make it into production.

 

John

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I've never seen that colour either so it's either a prototype or some kind of "special". Good find!

 

I think with the demise of Newhaven and the former staff now reaching advancing years we may see a few more of these rarities come into the public domain. I hope so anyway.

 

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There is one other possibility, which you mentioned & dismissed quite quickly. Could it possibly be a sunlight faded Red Marble that was regularly used by someone sitting at a sunlit desk? It is the sort of colour I'd expect red marble to fade to, and if used regularly it would probably get pretty even fading. The clincher would be whether the colour under the clip/ shadowed part of the barrel is the same.

 

If it is the same all over (hope it is) then you would have an undocumented colour, and it is really quite a find.

 

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And it's a Centennial as well! Even though they're by no means my favourite pens to write with, I just cannot resist them; they are like particularly lovely boiled sweets. And the ballpoint is a totally successful design as well, IMO.

 

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Marked as a prototype here ( #0011)

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Wheeeeeee.

I wonder what other gems are to be uncovered?

 

Must admit I don't really like the proportions of the Centennial in terms of looks, but love it in my hand to write with, feels like the perfect size. And the broad italic nib they put on it is one of the best I have come across. A true 1.1mm wide line.

 

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Aha!

 

I knew I'd seen it somewhere - here is a ballpoint in the same finish which is for sale on Hanspens.com I am sure that he had a pen a while back as well.

 

http://www.hanspens.com/DuofProtoBP-L.jpg

 

It's rather nice autumnal corned beef shade, isn't it? I really like it, but at the same time can see why it didn't make it into production.

 

John

 

"Autumnal corned beef shade" - must remember that one!

 

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There is one other possibility, which you mentioned & dismissed quite quickly. Could it possibly be a sunlight faded Red Marble that was regularly used by someone sitting at a sunlit desk? It is the sort of colour I'd expect red marble to fade to, and if used regularly it would probably get pretty even fading. The clincher would be whether the colour under the clip/ shadowed part of the barrel is the same.

 

If it is the same all over (hope it is) then you would have an undocumented colour, and it is really quite a find.

 

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The colour is even all around the pen, when l'm back at work tomorrow will get some better pictures taken.

Cheers Gary

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Spam coloured with silver furniture would have sold quite well as a demi, I think.

 

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What's the date code Gary?

 

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No markings on the pen anywhere.

 

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I wouldn't assume prototype, though it is possible. I tend to go with "not" unless otherwise proven otherwise.

 

Look very closely. The ballpoint and pencil will have it stamped on the gold cap. The fountain pen and rollerball have a very faint stamping 180 degrees from the clip, just above the cap bands. It can be easily missed or polished off of the cap. You are likely to need a louple or magnifying lamp to see it. The date code started in about 1979. Check this page for details.

 

I have a crushed burgundy International dated III E, which was the first quarter 1988. The pencil is dated I I, as in 3rd quarter 1994.

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Aha!

 

I knew I'd seen it somewhere - here is a ballpoint in the same finish which is for sale on Hanspens.com I am sure that he had a pen a while back as well.

 

http://www.hanspens.com/DuofProtoBP-L.jpg

 

It's rather nice autumnal corned beef shade, isn't it? I really like it, but at the same time can see why it didn't make it into production.

 

John

Your spot on, it's just like corned beef!

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A few better pictures here, I've given the pen a good look over with the loop and no markings presents anywhere on the pen. The caps band vary a little in size to the normal line flat band pen I have, and they don't seem to be finished off quite as well.

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Gary

 

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Fantastic photos.

From that it's easy to see my fears of it being a faded colour are utterly groundless.

 

Interesting colour. Must admit I'm not sure I would have had one had they been widely available, but it's not unpleasant.

 

But as such an uncommon colour, all I can do is congratulate you on finding a very unusual gem.

 

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The Ballpoint looks darker than the FP. Are you sure both the FP and the BP are the same color/shade?

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Different owners, different photographers, different everything.

 

And incidentally, it is well known that the special magic of corned beef can encompass the entire rainbow. I wouldn't be surprised if a pencil and ballpoint don't turn up at some point, to complete the set, as in the case of Algabatz's breathtaking bit of awesomeness:

 

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Seriously, would you just look at that !

 

Autumnal Corned Beef (lovely as it is, Gary) I can perhaps perceive having problems with prospective purchasers, but ..... Parker, what were you pondering? Grandmother + soul on offer for a piece of that pumpkinaceous perfection.

 

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