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#1 Shannon

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Posted 24 May 2016 - 16:08

Cross and their Centuries!!!

 

Does anyone have the different Century models who could post pictures comparing the pens side-by-side?  Might be nice to see a Townsend thrown in the mix, too.  I'm soo confused!


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Posted 24 May 2016 - 16:48

Good afternoon.  Others more versed than I will certainly chime in on this, and with much more information, but here's a little something to get you started.  Granted, most of these are rollerballs, but at least as far as I know there is no discernible difference between the two.

 

From left to right in both photos:

 

1. Century in Chrome (#3505) - I think when most folks think "Cross", this is what they think.

 

2. Century II in Chrome (#3504) - A little longer and wider than the Century.  Has one band at the base of the cap.  Also has a Townsend-like grip on a smaller scale.

 

3. Century 2000 in Blue (I'm not sure of the official name, but I think it is Blue Lacquer) - from what I have found, these were a limited release in 1997 (following the 1993 release of the Townsend).  Attributes of both the Century II (including the clip and the single band at the base of the cap) and the Townsend (cap design, size, and apparent ability to use Townsend nib and Selectip sections).

 

4. Townsend in Chrome - as requested, for comparison.  Primary differences between this pen and the Century 2000 appear to be the clip and the Townsend's signature double band at the base of the cap.

 

5. Peerless in Obsidian Black - for further comparison.

 

Hope this helps!

 

Chad

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Edited by Arklawboy, 24 May 2016 - 19:24.

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Posted 24 May 2016 - 17:00

Wow, thanks for posting the comparison!


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Posted 24 May 2016 - 19:55

That's perfect!  Thank you -- so very helpful.


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Posted 25 May 2016 - 19:36

Thanks for the comparison. That leaves out the Century Classic which is another step narrower.

 

 

I think I'll pin this topic!

 

 

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Posted 26 May 2016 - 03:56

Thanks for the comparison. That leaves out the Century Classic which is another step narrower.
 
 
I think I'll pin this topic!
 
 
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The "Classic Century" per Cross.
http://www.cross.com...CookieSupport=1
This is a real slimline pen, about the diameter of the original Century ball pen/mechanical pencil, or a standard wood pencil.
It uses the new slim cartridge.
And NO, Cross does not have a converter for this pen. But, you can make a bulb converter from an empty cartridge.

The problem with this name is that a lot of people call the 'original' Century from the 1980s the 'Classic Century' or 'Century Classic,' which just gets things mixed up, cuz you don't know which of the 2 pens they are really referring to.


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Posted 26 May 2016 - 17:35

  

The "Classic Century" per Cross.
http://www.cross.com...CookieSupport=1
This is a real slimline pen, about the diameter of the original Century ball pen/mechanical pencil, or a standard wood pencil.
It uses the new slim cartridge.
And NO, Cross does not have a converter for this pen. But, you can make a bulb converter from an empty cartridge.

The problem with this name is that a lot of people call the 'original' Century from the 1980s the 'Classic Century' or 'Century Classic,' which just gets things mixed up, cuz you don't know which of the 2 pens they are really referring to.

Thanks for adding this to the thread.  I don't have one of those in my little collection, in part because it is just way too slim for my hands.  I also just think the others look better!  :)  Thanks again, and glad the comparison was helpful!

 

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Posted 21 August 2016 - 17:14

Adding a picture of my Century II with gold appointments for reference (and to show off my precious! It was the first fountain pen I ever purchased, knowing nothing about fountain pens except that I loved the feeling of writing with them, how elegant and special they seemed. It took most of my first paycheck in addition to my employee discount but I had to have it! I thought it was lost forever until just a few months ago when I discovered it hiding in a box of junk! *Hubby got a tense lecture about just throwing things in boxes*)

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Posted 15 October 2016 - 15:43

Love my century 2 medalist, literally lives in my jeans pocket. Perfect size to carry around at all times.

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Posted 24 March 2017 - 10:43

Good afternoon.  Others more versed than I will certainly chime in on this, and with much more information, but here's a little something to get you started.  Granted, most of these are rollerballs, but at least as far as I know there is no discernible difference between the two.
 
From left to right in both photos:
 
1. Century in Chrome (#3505) - I think when most folks think "Cross", this is what they think.
 
2. Century II in Chrome (#3504) - A little longer and wider than the Century.  Has one band at the base of the cap.  Also has a Townsend-like grip on a smaller scale.
 
3. Century 2000 in Blue (I'm not sure of the official name, but I think it is Blue Lacquer) - from what I have found, these were a limited release in 1997 (following the 1993 release of the Townsend).  Attributes of both the Century II (including the clip and the single band at the base of the cap) and the Townsend (cap design, size, and apparent ability to use Townsend nib and Selectip sections).
 
4. Townsend in Chrome - as requested, for comparison.  Primary differences between this pen and the Century 2000 appear to be the clip and the Townsend's signature double band at the base of the cap.
 
5. Peerless in Obsidian Black - for further comparison.
 
Hope this helps!
 
Chad


Nice.

I do not have a photo comparison, but I think there are 3 different kinds of centuries (I am new on this, pls correct me if I am wrong) classic century from the 80s or so with the nib like lamy safari, current classic century and century ii. Am I right?

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 06:27

Adding a picture of my Century II with gold appointments for reference (and to show off my precious! It was the first fountain pen I ever purchased, knowing nothing about fountain pens except that I loved the feeling of writing with them, how elegant and special they seemed. It took most of my first paycheck in addition to my employee discount but I had to have it! I thought it was lost forever until just a few months ago when I discovered it hiding in a box of junk! *Hubby got a tense lecture about just throwing things in boxes*)

Beautiful Century II you have, kmeredith923.  Makes me want to look for that particular one!  :)



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Posted 12 June 2017 - 20:17

I always thought that the difference between the older and newer ones was that the older ones use the order "Century Classic," but the new ones are called "Classic Century." That's very confusing, especially if you do a search without putting the exact phrase in quotation marks.

I own a "Century Classic," dating from somewhere in the 1980's. It was on a clearance sale at a J.C. Penney's store for $13, supposedly much more expensive when not on sale. Mine had a medium nib, but the A.T. Cross company switched mine to XF for free. A distinctive mark is at the top of the cap, where you can see two lines:
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A few years after buying the pen, it accidentally fell out of my pocket on my driveway and I ran over it in my 1969 Plymouth. The cap was ruined and the barrel had a small dent. I sent it to A.T. Cross again and they returned it in perfect condition, except for my barrel with the tiny dent, which doesn't affect the pen in any way, but is now a 35 year old reminder of my dumb accident!

Edited by rff000, 12 June 2017 - 20:18.


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Posted 13 June 2017 - 00:23

Nice.

I do not have a photo comparison, but I think there are 3 different kinds of centuries (I am new on this, pls correct me if I am wrong) classic century from the 80s or so with the nib like lamy safari, current classic century and century ii. Am I right?

 

 

 

I always thought that the difference between the older and newer ones was that the older ones use the order "Century Classic," but the new ones are called "Classic Century." That's very confusing, especially if you do a search without putting the exact phrase in quotation marks.

I own a "Century Classic," dating from somewhere in the 1980's. It was on a clearance sale at a J.C. Penney's store for $13, supposedly much more expensive when not on sale. Mine had a medium nib, but the A.T. Cross company switched mine to XF for free. A distinctive mark is at the top of the cap, where you can see two lines:
Cross
 

 

As far as I know there are THREE models of the Century

 

#1 = Century from about 1980s.  Note this is NOT the Classic Century nor Century Classic.  It was the FIRST of the Century pens, and is simply the Century.  Some call it, the original Century, which avoids the name confusion of using the word "Classic."  Note that the fountain pen and select tip pens are larger in diameter than the ball pen and mechanical pencils.

 

#2 = Century II.  Larger and heavier than the Century.

 

#3 = Classic Century.  This is a current production pen.  I think the name comes from making the pens (including the fountain pen) about the same diameter as the original Century ball pen, about 8.1mm in diameter.

To make thing confusing, this model comes in TWO (2) versions, and they did not change the name :wacko:  IOW, if you are not careful you can buy Version 1, thinking you are buying Version 2.

  • Classic Century - Version 1 = The first version made, is a slimline pen about the size of a #2 pencil, aprox 8.1mm diameter.  Similar in diameter to the original Century ball pen.  Note that Cross does NOT make a converter that will fit this pen. And it uses the Cross SLIM cartridge.
  • Classic Century - Version 2 = The 2nd version made, is larger in diameter (9.7mm), to fit a converter.  According to the Cross web site, the Version 2, also uses the Cross SLIM cartridge.

Edited by ac12, 13 June 2017 - 03:57.

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Posted 13 June 2017 - 01:19

Thanks for the correction. It really is confusing. OK, I have a plain Century. I actually also have the ballpoint, which I don't like as much as the FP, but I got as a gift back in the 60's. I always thought both were thin, but now that I look at both in front of me, I can see that the ballpoint is even thinner.

Here's a photo, showing the dent in the FP from when I ran over the barrel in my car:

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Edited by rff000, 13 June 2017 - 01:34.


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Posted 13 June 2017 - 04:03

The confusing part comes when people incorrectly refer to the original Century as the Classic Century or Century Classic. 

This is why I always have to ask for clarification when someone says Classic Century or Century Classic. 

 

Unfortunately, Cross does not have a 10k or 14k Classic Century fountain pen.

I would love one to match up to my old sets.


Edited by ac12, 13 June 2017 - 04:05.

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Posted 05 August 2017 - 15:37

FWIW, here are three pictures of my Century Classic Medalist I bought in 2017. It seems there is a difference in the bottom part of the fountain pen. The same difference exists in the rollerball of which I do not have a picture yet (it's on order)

 

cross century classic medalist fountain pen 2017.jpg

cross century classic medalist ballpoint 2017.jpg

cross century classic medalist pencil 2017.jpg

 

 








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