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So I got a sample of Montblanc Daniel Defoe ink and really love it... but being a special edition its not readily available for me to purchase. I was wondering what other inks are close to this that I can look into trying instead.

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I don't have Diamine Safari but I think it's a similar colour that's quite easy to get.

There's also R&K Alt-goldgrun and Standardgraph Schilfgrun, both have more yellow than Defoe.

Something more similar to Defoe would be Sailor Kingdom Note Tanna japonensis, but that's an unobtanium now.

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That's one of my favorites, too. I'm on my 2nd and last bottle.

 

Palm Green seems to be between R&K Alt-Goldgren and Sailor Epinard. If I run out, I'll try mixing mostly Alt-Goldgrun and a tiny bit of Epinard. If Epinard is unavailable, Evergreen by Diamine is very similar. IMHO

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Aside from Sailor Epinard, the rest of the recommended inks (including my own) have too much yellow in it. The aforementioned Sailor ink is a bit too stoney in hue, however, mentioned for a mix. Still, the noted inks are within the realm of Daniel Defoe Palm Green and many of them, I feel, are more intresting.

 

My recommendation rests with Papier Plume's Moss Green. Fantastic color, though a bit on the wet side.

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Diamine Safari or R&K Alt. Goldgrun are similar to Mb Daniel Defoe. :)

 

I don't have Daniel Defoe but I have Jonathan Swift. I'm not sure how similar they are. B)

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We haven't heard much recently about the Trekker ink company that makes custom colors. Maybe you could send them a small sample of the Daniel DeFoe and have them duplicate it.

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Diamine Safari was the closest to MB Daniel Defoe that I tried in terms of color. R&K Alt Goldgrun is very nice but it is quite lighter in color.

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Stipula Calma Moss Green might fill the bill though that one is a bit grey I think vs. Defoe (which I love, too). Do try Diamine Safari, too, it might scratch that itch, and R&K Alt Goldgruen (sp) is really a great ink and so overlooked.


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I have heard good things about a 1:1 mix of standard KWZ inks: Green Gold and Green Gold #2. I have samples, so I can try to do that mix.

 

Check out this thread as well.

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I have heard good things about a 1:1 mix of standard KWZ inks: Green Gold and Green Gold #2. I have samples, so I can try to do that mix.

 

Check out this thread as well.

 

Thank you for this interesting link! It sounds good and looks great what our FPN-fellows can archive! But I am always cautious...

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That's what I mixed. Unfortunately I don't have the original Defoe.

 

Sorry for the awful lettering! I used nothing but a nib to write it - no pen and no holder, so it was a bit difficult to control.

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That's what I mixed. Unfortunately I don't have the original Defoe.

 

Sorry for the awful lettering! I used nothing but a nib to write it - no pen and no holder, so it was a bit difficult to control.

 

Thank you for your efforts! This is very nice of you! The mixture is interesting! I should try it myself!

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You're welcome! Many people, including myself, would love to find a doppelganger of this ink, so if my efforts get us any closer to our objective, I am more than happy. Mixing would be easier if I had more ink - I had 2 ml of each version, so sucking up the specific, tiny amounts of them into my syringe was not an easy task.

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So thank you once more for your efforts! ... I have the strong impression that this ink belongs to these inks which have no Doppelgänger! ... Defoe is so beautiful and so extremely complicated.

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I'll try to get a written sample of Defoe. I wonder if any of the smaller ink makers (for example KWZ, Robert Oster or De Atramentis) would be capable of producing something similiar enough to make us happy.

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KWZI Green Gold #1?

I don't know how about yours, but my sample is too brown. Please check out the link I posted (this one with my samples of mixes). KWZI Green Gold #1 is second from the top.

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