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As far as I know, there have been several M400 brown tortoise editions, some going as far back as the early 80s, but some being made as late as 2009.

 

I have one question: does anyone know which edition this one is from? I suspect 2009, but I'm not sure.

 

The cap bands say "Pelikan - Germany", so I assume it is not from between 1980 and 1989.

 

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I would have to agree with you that it is one of the more recent models. My M400 brown tortoise came in the older style (w/ W. Germany) plastic clamshell case with felt on the bottom.

 

I am not confident with my dates, but I assume your pen was made in the mid 90's? Though a second opinion would be appreciated as well.

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I would have to agree with you that it is one of the more recent models. My M400 brown tortoise came in the older style (w/ W. Germany) plastic clamshell case with felt on the bottom.

 

I am not confident with my dates, but I assume your pen was made in the mid 90's? Though a second opinion would be appreciated as well.

 

I think you may be right. Either way I am very happy with this buy. It is a very nice set that looks like it was never used.

 

I found some additional information here: https://thepelikansperch.com/2014/09/07/a-treatise-on-the-modern-tortoise-1980-2014/

 

I'm unable to pinpoint when it was made even with that page, because it says the earlier models have an entirely "brown" barrel, and the latter ones have a barrel like mine but have two gold bands on the clips.

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Your pen is an M400 Tortoiseshell Brown made circa 1990-1996. A very nice pen. Enjoy it!

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I'm unable to pinpoint when it was made even with that page, because it says the earlier models have an entirely "brown" barrel, and the latter ones have a barrel like mine but have two gold bands on the clips.

Are you referring this pen (right)? It was commissioned by Galeria Kaufhof in 2003.

 

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m188/kewlfly/image_zpsleuibpct.jpeg

 

And this pen (right) was issued by Pelikan as a M415 special edition in 2009.

 

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m188/kewlfly/image.jpg1_zpsbjtxy9av.jpg

 

By the way, congratulations on the addition.

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This yellow/black boxes have been used in the 80s-90s. There were replaced by dark blue ones 1999-2010?.

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Thanks for the info on the one ht e415, I'd thought it a Frankie, had I run into one.

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oh, that's a beauty. i've always wanted a brown tortoise that is smaller than the m800 size. you really are lucky.

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There are a lot more Tortoise out there than I thought...thanks for the link.

 

I'd just said '90-97 for Germany, with no piston ring but now see I could be very wrong....always something new to learn. :thumbup:

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In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

 

 

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