Dr Ph Martin's Ocean Vs Platinum Carbon Ink?

[aabram]

i need a good black archival ink, these two are available in my local online shop. both are pigmented fountain pen-save ink. i've heard good things about carbon black ink, but i can't find information online on dr martins ocean. the carbon ink is slightly more expensive. anyone tried one or both?

[majolo]

I've used Platinum Carbon in a Platinum carbon desk pen with converter for a few months and it works great for me, very waterproof and always starts right up. I don't know how well it does as far as lightfastness if that's a concern. I have not used any Dr. Ph. Martin fountain pen inks though.

[DrDebG]

I just received three bottles of Dr. Ph. Martin's Ocean fountain pen inks. They are pigment inks, and as you would expect with pigment inks a bit thicker and more opaque. I am right in the process of evaluating the blue ink, and hope to do reviews on the red and black as well.

 

One think I can tell you is that they are waterproof. I soaked a written page in water for 2 hours and only a tiny amount bled away. The entire page can be read as if I had not soaked it.

 

 

This photo was taken 2 hours after soaking.

 

I've tested Edge Blue on four different kinds of papers, a Tomoe River-like paper (from my Midori Traveler Notebook), Xerox Premium copy paper, cheap notepad paper and Staples Arc notebook paper (fountain pen friendly paper). Each paper received the ink well. There was little feathering only on the cheap notepad paper, no bleedthrough and little showthrough. I dropped blobs of ink of each of the three colors on the Staples Arc paper and copy paper expecting saturation and bleed through. There was none. There is a nice red sheen with the blue ink, and a bit of a gold sheen with the red. I only saw a bit of shading on the Tomoe River-like paper.

 

If you spill it on anything, it does stain, so be forewarned.

 

I used a Jinhao 250 fine point for my testing. The ink flowed quite nicely and had no start up issues. The ink hasn't seemed to clog the pen.

 

Also, I haven't cleaned out the pen I have been using yet - probably tomorrow.

 

Overall, my initial impressions are that this seems to be a well behaved ink. I will post a full review later in the week.

Edited May 1, 2016 by DrPenfection

[dcwaites]

Carbon Inks (eg. Platinum Black, Pelikan Fount India, Sailor Kiwaguro, etc) are known archival inks, and are used by museums for labels that are required to last hundreds of years.

 

The other coloured pigment inks (Dr Ph Martins Ocean Edge Blue , Platinum Pigment Blue, Sailor Sei Boku, etc) don't have the history of lasting for hundreds of years that carbon inks do,

[aabram]

I've used Platinum Carbon in a Platinum carbon desk pen with converter for a few months and it works great for me, very waterproof and always starts right up. I don't know how well it does as far as lightfastness if that's a concern. I have not used any Dr. Ph. Martin fountain pen inks though.

 

thanks for the input, looks like the carbon ink will be a save choice for me. but i still curious about the other one

 

I just received three bottles of Dr. Ph. Martin's Ocean fountain pen inks. They are pigment inks, and as you would expect with pigment inks a bit thicker and more opaque. I am right in the process of evaluating the blue ink, and hope to do reviews on the red and black as well.

 

One think I can tell you is that they are waterproof. I soaked a written page in water for 2 hours and only a tiny amount bled away. The entire page can be read as if I had not soaked it.

 

 

This photo was taken 2 hours after soaking.

 

I've tested Edge Blue on four different kinds of papers, a Tomoe River-like paper (from my Midori Traveler Notebook), Xerox Premium copy paper, cheap notepad paper and Staples Arc notebook paper (fountain pen friendly paper). Each paper received the ink well. There was little feathering only on the cheap notepad paper, no bleedthrough and little showthrough. I dropped blobs of ink of each of the three colors on the Staples Arc paper and copy paper expecting saturation and bleed through. There was none. There is a nice red sheen with the blue ink, and a bit of a gold sheen with the red. I only saw a bit of shading on the Tomoe River-like paper.

 

If you spill it on anything, it does stain, so be forewarned.

 

I used a Jinhao 250 fine point for my testing. The ink flowed quite nicely and had no start up issues. The ink hasn't seemed to clog the pen.

 

Also, I haven't cleaned out the pen I have been using yet - probably tomorrow.

 

Overall, my initial impressions are that this seems to be a well behaved ink. I will post a full review later in the week.

 

awesome, looking forward for your reviews! thanks!

 

Carbon Inks (eg. Platinum Black, Pelikan Fount India, Sailor Kiwaguro, etc) are known archival inks, and are used by museums for labels that are required to last hundreds of years.

 

The other coloured pigment inks (Dr Ph Martins Ocean Edge Blue , Platinum Pigment Blue, Sailor Sei Boku, etc) don't have the history of lasting for hundreds of years that carbon inks do,

 

thanks for the info, dr ph martin's oceans are indeed pretty new to the market. from what i have known, pigment based inks usually does have that archival attribute unlike dye based inks.