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I got a Waterman 52 1/2 V at the Atlanta pen show. While there I had a new sack put in it. I waited 24 hours, then cleaned the nib and feed and put in some new orange ink. Right off the ink turned brown. I thought, "Ok, I did not get all the old blue ink out and it is mixing". Then the next day, it had turned black!

This time I pulled out the nib and feed and cleaned everything in an ultrasonic. I inked it up and wrote with it, and it was orange. The nex day it was brown again.

Does anyone know what's going on? Has this happen to you? What am I doing wrong?

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What kind of ink is it? I wonder if the ink is just no good. Could the ink possibly be reacting with the sac?

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The ink is Pilot Iroshizuku Yu-yake Ink (Sunset). It's a new bottle. I'm wondering if it is reacting with the sack.

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Have you tried it in another pen to see if the same thing happens? Maybe a c/c pen just to eliminate the possibility that the ink and the sac aren't getting along.

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No, I have not tried that yet. But I will. What is a C/C pen?

 

A cartridge/converter pen. That is, a pen with a converter.

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I suspect you simply have some old dried ink that is gradually dissolving in the fresh ink. It may take a while.

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Well, I tried the orange ink in a c/c pen, and it is doing fine.

It must have been a strange reaction of the two inks.

Thanks everyone for your help.

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I'd use something like Rapido-eze to clean out the old ink.

 

It's not really a "reaction" of the two inks. It's simply a mixture of a very dark ink (black or blue, probably) with a lighter ink. If you tried mixing a little bit of black ink with yu-yake in a vial, you'd see what I mean.

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I'd use something like Rapido-eze to clean out the old ink.

 

It's not really a "reaction" of the two inks. It's simply a mixture of a very dark ink (black or blue, probably) with a lighter ink. If you tried mixing a little bit of black ink with yu-yake in a vial, you'd see what I mean.

 

 

That makes sense. Orange and blue do make brown.

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I'll try that for cleaning.

When I first put the ink in, it turned brown, but two days later, it was jet black. There must've been some type of reaction.

Oh, The ink that was previously in the pen was blue.

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It's just old dried ink slowly becoming dissolved in the fresh ink. While this solvation is technically considered a kind of "reaction", it's really not what people commonly think of as a chemical reaction.

 

Again, I'd suggest cleaning out the feed with Rapido-eze. Apparently, water alone, even with ultrasonication, isn't doing the job very quickly.

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It's just old dried ink slowly becoming dissolved in the fresh ink. While this solvation is technically considered a kind of "reaction", it's really not what people commonly think of as a chemical reaction.

 

Again, I'd suggest cleaning out the feed with Rapido-eze. Apparently, water alone, even with ultrasonication, isn't doing the job very quickly.

 

 

Yes, some inks will stick to the inside of the pen, so just rinsing with water won't clean that off. You need a chemical cleaner (like Rapido-eze) or to physically clean it with a swab. Which you use depends on the pen and your access to the insides.

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