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Hi, I just saw this in a shop in my town, they had the pen in 2 colours, this one is called 'Old Chambray'.

 

That Perkeo looks interesting :) I'm thinking of getting one, but I was wondering if you've tried to fit the sport's clip on it. Pens without clips seem to have a tendency of getting lost (they fall out of my pockets/bags).

 

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I have three Kaweco Sport fountain pens. One is a special edition for Europe, the other two are Skyline models (because they have silver color nibs and accents). The special edition came in the tin case. Top is the Sport Skyline in Mint when it was special edition. The middle is the Sport Dark Brown that I had to get from Europe, and finally the Sport Skyline Macchiato. All have broad nibs.

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Hi, I don't have a clip for the 'Sport' but the Perkeo's cap is a bigger diameter than the Sport, so I would guess it won't fit.

Measured both, across the flats of the cap, Sport=13.1mm, Perkeo=14.5mm.

The Perkeo's cap is not threaded, it snaps on.

The Sport weighs 10g, the Perkeo 14g.

I find the Perkeo to be very comfortable to hold and write with, the three flats on the section are just right for my grip.

A couple more photos of the Perkeo.

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A comparison photo of the Sport and the Perkeo's nibs, also the different grip sections.

The Perkeo has a larger diameter feed than the Sport, a number 6, I think.

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My favourite is the 125 with Voltaire-stlye gold accents. It is a luxury version of the Dia from the 30s. The nib has gone for repair. Behind it is a lovely Special 631 in blue marbled, followed by a super-wet nibbed Helios 55.

A set of Dia models in the centre - 802, 802, 805, 85A.

And then a V12 and modern AL sport to the right!

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Amazing examples, especially 3rd from left.

Some Safeties in Silver with Niello details

 

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Love those vintage colored pens.

My favourite is the 125 with Voltaire-stlye gold accents. It is a luxury version of the Dia from the 30s. The nib has gone for repair. Behind it is a lovely Special 631 in blue marbled, followed by a super-wet nibbed Helios 55.

A set of Dia models in the centre - 802, 802, 805, 85A.

And then a V12 and modern AL sport to the right!

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Hi, I don't have a clip for the 'Sport' but the Perkeo's cap is a bigger diameter than the Sport, so I would guess it won't fit.

Measured both, across the flats of the cap, Sport=13.1mm, Perkeo=14.5mm.

The Perkeo's cap is not threaded, it snaps on.

The Sport weighs 10g, the Perkeo 14g.

I find the Perkeo to be very comfortable to hold and write with, the three flats on the section are just right for my grip.

A couple more photos of the Perkeo.

Thanks for the info and pics Mike :) I guess I'll have to pass on the Perkeo for now (until they come out with a clip for it). I don't wanna lose another clip-less pen :/ Edited by hinky
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REPOST DUE TO PHOTOBUCKET RUINING PICTURE LINKS NET-WIDE.

 

My in comparison rather modest collection of Kaweco pens.

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Here are two vintage Kaweco Sport pocket pens that I've just restored.

 

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This is a Sport 12 in black celluloid with 14k OF gold nib and it's smaller sibling, a Sport 11 with celluloid barrel and section, ebonite cap, and 14k B gold nib. Both have green ink windows, which is not really visible in the pictures. I'm a bit puzzled about their age, especially the 11. They look like 1950s models but the materials, especially the ebonite cap, would point more to the 1930s. Does anyone here have more information to date them?

 

Both pens came in a lot I bought and needed serious help. The 11 had a totally ruined nib but was in great shape otherwise. The 12 was technically OK but had a very messed up exterior and a crack in the cap. I was able to restore both so they are in excellent condition now. Here is some more info on the 11 in a separate thread. https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/329055-ruined-nib-never-give-up-never-surrender/

 

 

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The fixed Sport with some objects for size comparison. It's only 88 mm capped and 118 mm posted

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This is a Sport 12 in black celluloid with 14k OF gold nib and it's smaller sibling, a Sport 11 with celluloid barrel and section, ebonite cap, and 14k B gold nib. Both have green ink windows, which is not really visible in the pictures. I'm a bit puzzled about their age, especially the 11. They look like 1950s models but the materials, especially the ebonite cap, would point more to the 1930s. Does anyone here have more information to date them?

 

Great restoration work there. I have a resin kaweco sport from the 70s and it's possible the original owners replaced the missing parts with spares which would explain the different materials for each FP. The good old days where FP companies had spare parts and would fix them for customers.

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Fantastic work! How did you fix the crack?

 

Thank you. I made some black celluloid powder from a totally broken donor pen and mixed it with superglue (cyanoacrylate glue) to make a black paste. I filled the crack with it and let it harden completely. Then I smoothed the surface with self-made sanding files with 400 and 1000 grit and finally polished with a buffing wheel and for the last finish with office paper. It's a bit tedious but not very difficult.

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Great restoration work there. I have a resin kaweco sport from the 70s and it's possible the original owners replaced the missing parts with spares which would explain the different materials for each FP. The good old days where FP companies had spare parts and would fix them for customers.

 

Thank you. So, your pen has different materials for cap and the rest too?

 

I have a number of Kawecos which are very hard to date due to somewhat inconsistent parts. Some time ago I was in contact with Kaweco and was told that due to lack of certain materials during war time, some pens were finished and sold right after production resumed (I think in 1946) using what they still had and only making some of the missing parts new. I have a NOS Spezial 32 most likely of that kind. Unfortunately, it seems nearly impossible to find reliable information on the various Sport models on the internet and my books don't help much either. So, I hope some expert will find it here and enlightens me.:)

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Thank you. So, your pen has different materials for cap and the rest too?

 

I have a number of Kawecos which are very hard to date due to somewhat inconsistent parts. Some time ago I was in contact with Kaweco and was told that due to lack of certain materials during war time, some pens were finished and sold right after production resumed (I think in 1946) using what they still had and only making some of the missing parts new. I have a NOS Spezial 32 most likely of that kind. Unfortunately, it seems nearly impossible to find reliable information on the various Sport models on the internet and my books don't help much either. So, I hope some expert will find it here and enlightens me. :)

 

Maybe you know about it already but there is a very complete book there

 

https://mostwanted-pens.com/en/detail/index/sArticle/1446/sCategory/26

 

Kaweco by M. Gutberlet and G. Bradl

 

Hope it helps...

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Never heard of it before, thanks for sharing! Do you have it and do you think its a worthwhile buy?

 

Yes I have it and I believe it is a good idea to buy it if interested in Kaweco. It has information that i did not know at all and I have a large vintage Kaweco collection and have been researching for longtime.

In fact in the same page there is also another book published at the same time or shortly before, and it is a sort of diary of the company –they reproduce the hand written pages as they were in the files– with design drawings, and with a little patience you can find details about some models that appear only mentioned in the other book...

 

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Yes I have it and I believe it is a good idea to buy it if interested in Kaweco. It has information that i did not know at all and I have a large vintage Kaweco collection and have been researching for longtime.

In fact in the same page there is also another book published at the same time or shortly before, and it is a sort of diary of the company they reproduce the hand written pages as they were in the files with design drawings, and with a little patience you can find details about some models that appear only mentioned in the other book...

 

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Thanks for sharing!

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Thank you for pointing out this book. I've been aware of it for awhile but don't own it yet. But I'm thinking about getting it some day. Anyway, do you have any more info on the Sport 11 you could share here? This probably would be very useful for the broader community as well.

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Thank you for pointing out this book. I've been aware of it for awhile but don't own it yet. But I'm thinking about getting it some day. Anyway, do you have any more info on the Sport 11 you could share here? This probably would be very useful for the broader community as well.

 

Although I have a lot of Kaweco I am not into the model Sport, they are too small for me and I do not like to post them; I have to write with every pen I get.

I know the original Kaweco Sport is from 1934 but the models 11 & 12 started in 1953. They are in celluloid, but as it was common then some parts had to be stronger, the section and the feeder in particular, so they used BHR or ebonite.

 

Hope this helps

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