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Wow, just found this thread. The sport pens with semi-hooded nibs look stellar.

Glad you found it & :W2FPN: .

*Sailor 1911S, Black/gold, 14k. 0.8 mm. stub(JM) *1911S blue "Colours", 14k. H-B "M" BLS (PB)

*2 Sailor 1911S Burgundy/gold: 14k. 0.6 mm. "round-nosed" CI (MM) & 14k. 1.1 mm. CI (JM)

*Sailor Pro-Gear Slim Spec. Ed. "Fire",14k. (factory) "H-B"

*Kaweco SPECIAL FP: 14k. "B",-0.6 mm BLS & 14k."M" 0.4 mm. BLS (PB)

*Kaweco Stainless Steel Lilliput, 14k. "M" -0.7 mm.BLS, (PB)

 

 

 

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Glad you found it & :W2FPN: .

 

Thanks!

 

I have a black modern Sport and am planning to buy a Liliput, but identical pens were already posted here in the thread...

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Thanks!

 

I have a black modern Sport and am planning to buy a Liliput, but identical pens were already posted here in the thread...

My Lilliput is with me every day.

You may want to consider the purpose made leather pouch that Kaweco offers for the Lilliput. This little case prevents the cap from unscrewing inside your pocket or bag & it will save you some stains if a cartridge gets loose & you develop a leak. I've had both things happen.

Other than that the Lilliput is a handy little writing tool.

Enjoy.

*Sailor 1911S, Black/gold, 14k. 0.8 mm. stub(JM) *1911S blue "Colours", 14k. H-B "M" BLS (PB)

*2 Sailor 1911S Burgundy/gold: 14k. 0.6 mm. "round-nosed" CI (MM) & 14k. 1.1 mm. CI (JM)

*Sailor Pro-Gear Slim Spec. Ed. "Fire",14k. (factory) "H-B"

*Kaweco SPECIAL FP: 14k. "B",-0.6 mm BLS & 14k."M" 0.4 mm. BLS (PB)

*Kaweco Stainless Steel Lilliput, 14k. "M" -0.7 mm.BLS, (PB)

 

 

 

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Here's a little fellow I picked up recently and have been using the last couple of weeks--it is a smallish Kaweco Elite 582G, which I think is from the 1950s.

 

-Otter1

 

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"74K" (yes, definitely a 7 and not a 1!)

 

Just a thought, but i read that the number 1 in Germany is often written similar to a British or North American 7. Meanwhile the seven is shaped the same way, but with a short cross stroke horizontally in the middle of the downstroke. If that is so in this circumstance then the gold would be 14k on the nib.

 

Hope this proves helpful.

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The forums and other enthusiasts here on FPN have provided me with much enjoyment and information over the years thus enabling my habit ;-)

I hope this is not too sacrilegious but, at this time my Kaweco is the one below. Even the EF fountain pen nib was not fine enough for my preference. Plus when desiring a finer line i am able to cut back a .38 or .28mm Signo refill.

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Just a thought, but i read that the number 1 in Germany is often written similar to a British or North American 7. Meanwhile the seven is shaped the same way, but with a short cross stroke horizontally in the middle of the downstroke. If that is so in this circumstance then the gold would be 14k on the nib.

 

Hope this proves helpful.

 

Thanks for the explanation; funnily enough I've adopted the continental habit of putting a line through my sevens to avoid just such a mix up!

 

I'll throw in some pics and you can see the various ones and sevens that lead to my conclusion - they're a varied bunch! Unfortunately the nib impression is a bit sketchy, but I hope you may make it out right on the tail there. Doesn't seem to be any sign of plating either, which could explain a 14K mark on a steel nib, although I don't know if Kaweco even went in for the questionable habit of marking up gold plated nibs as if they were solid anyway.

 

I don't know, this particular pen seems to throw up nothing but questions; it'd be no surprise at all to find out it's got all the wrong numbers everywhere!

 

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I'm not familiar with that specific Kaweco model but from the detailed pictures you provide it seems to have a screw-in piston mechanism, which was used until the early 1950s. On the other hand it has a three-digit model number (785) which was used mainly (but not exclusively) from the early 50s on. Your pen could be from the transition period. Kaweco often distinguished models with gold and steel nibs by an addition to the model number. In the earlier period, steel nibs often were indicated by a model number ##A. In the later period, gold nibs were usually indicated by a model number ###G (except the V models from the 60s).

 

But the nib you show clearly is a steel nib. It reads 1A-4 which was a standard stainless steel material for nibs. The impression at the bottom, reading 74K, is invisible for the buyer and user when the pen is assembled and does not indicate the nib's material.

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Thank you, OMASsimo - you've given me 100% more information than I had! It is indeed a screw-in piston mechanism. I was wondering if the "07" beneath the model number indicated anything?

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Just a thought, but i read that the number 1 in Germany is often written similar to a British or North American 7. Meanwhile the seven is shaped the same way, but with a short cross stroke horizontally in the middle of the downstroke. If that is so in this circumstance then the gold would be 14k on the nib.

 

Hope this proves helpful.

In handwritten form, yes. Not so much on print.

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Here's a pair of modern Kaweco pens, Liliput Eco Brass Wave (F) and Classic Sport Guilloche (1.1):

 

http://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8454/28700083414_813278baa0_c.jpg

The Diamine Emerald from the Liliput are looks great and your penmanship beautiful Eli. Likewise the Soldier of Fortune in Yu-Yake above. The handwriting enhances the look of the inks.

 

Ken

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The Diamine Emerald from the Liliput are looks great and your penmanship beautiful Eli. Likewise the Soldier of Fortune in Yu-Yake above. The handwriting enhances the look of the inks.

 

Ken

Thanks a lot!

Practice, patience, perseverance

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Thank you, OMASsimo - you've given me 100% more information than I had! It is indeed a screw-in piston mechanism. I was wondering if the "07" beneath the model number indicated anything?

From what I know, the 07 signifies medium nib

My Vintage Montblanc Website--> link

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This Kaweco AL sports is mine, and I absolutely love it. I carry it with me most of the time as my daily use fountain pen.

http://www.luxevulpennen.nl/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Kaweco-ALsport-complete-fountain-pen-758x201.jpg

I also wrote a review about it on my website which you can find here

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From what I know, the 07 signifies medium nib

 

Gosh, sorry, siamackz, only just saw this. Thanks. Medium, eh? Might be a replacement nib then.

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Gosh, sorry, siamackz, only just saw this. Thanks. Medium, eh? Might be a replacement nib then.

Yup, the thing with these old pens is that they've been through so much time that either nibs have been replaced or tipping has simply been worn. They are almost never what the blind cap says they are :)

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Hi, I just saw this in a shop in my town, they had the pen in 2 colours, this one is called 'Old Chambray'.

 

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