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#21 Pen_Ingeneer

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Posted 08 June 2016 - 10:49

Hello Fountain Pen Friends

I like to tell you, that for now at least, the final chapter on nibs has been completed.  Here, I talk about, how all the technicalities we discussed before, are applied to the design of nibs.

I hope, you will have many questions, so I can answer them and be sure that you got the idea.  But first, I would like to invite you to visit this page

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Posted 08 June 2016 - 19:35

Enjoyed reading this. Thanks

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Posted 10 June 2016 - 01:42

glad to here  :rolleyes:

 

While I may have your attention... I would like to drag some conversation onto my blog... perhaps some liking or even followings.  How could I entice you?   :blush:


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Posted 10 June 2016 - 03:24

Thank you for sharing what you have learned. Very interesting. I was reading about inks, and you stated that putting a small amount of detergent in your ink will forever change/ruin the feed. Does something happen to the surface of the plastic?

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Posted 13 June 2016 - 11:17

Thank you for sharing what you have learned. Very interesting. I was reading about inks, and you stated that putting a small amount of detergent in your ink will forever change/ruin the feed. Does something happen to the surface of the plastic?

detergents are surfactants.  they change the behaviour of substances when they get in contact with each other.  Have a look at my blog where I talk about that... here is the link

 

  https://fountainpend...e-fountain-pen/

 

and yes, they do something to the plastic as well, to the surface of the plastic of the feed in particular, which is treated at the end of its manufacturing process.  This treatment is "removed"... I haven't written about this on my blog, yet.

 

I hope that answers your question


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Posted 14 June 2016 - 00:58

Thanks, that basically answers my question.

 

Unfortunately, it turns out, people often advise to clean pens (for ex. this thread, and many others) with dishsoap, detergent, or ammonia, which I have also done (dishsoap and water).

 

In my own experience, a pelikan nib which I had washed with soap started behaving more hyrdophilically after using pelikan ink. So I'm guessing there is some feed-ink proprietary chemical combination.



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Posted 14 June 2016 - 07:11

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In my own experience, a pelikan nib which I had washed with soap started behaving more hyrdophilically after using pelikan ink. So I'm guessing there is some feed-ink proprietary chemical combination.

Your observation is correct.  The nib would get more hydrophilic. And that would happen with any ink.  During my research work, I would only use the company's ink for testing the feed.  It is a finely tuned component and I did not want any other parameters cloud my work.

 

If a nib gets in contact of anything besides water or ink, the easiest way to clean it is: boil it in water, we used polyethylene glycol, a chemical used for dry cleaning clothes.  The latter one can use also for neutralising a soiled feed... ours are made from ABS.  If you don't know what material the feed is made from, test it first on one of the upper capillary chambers. 


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Posted 26 June 2016 - 11:22

 

 

??? Is this in response to a post in this topic? I can't really follow it??

 

 

D.ick

yes....

It is written on top of someone's image

 

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PS:  He had a lot of bad things to say about my website (interesting) and seems to have a lot of cows


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Posted 26 June 2016 - 13:00

yes....

It is written on top of someone's image

 

OneRiotOneRanger

 

PS:  He had a lot of bad things to say about my website (interesting) and seems to have a lot of cows

 

Actually, you already replied to this in April.... but thx again

 

 

D.ick


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Posted 26 June 2016 - 22:38

 

Actually, you already replied to this in April.... but thx again

 

 

D.ick

with time... one gets older... :huh: :) :rolleyes:


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nice website friend



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Posted 12 July 2016 - 11:10

nice website friend

Thanks, Vishal... I am working on a big chapter at the moment... surface treatment of feeds.... will be good... a few more days of proof reading


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Posted 15 July 2016 - 07:51

I like your spelling Ingeneer, however in my country the term Ingenieur (Ir. or Ing.) is an official title that requires a certain diploma.

 

I think the English "engineer" would be used for a designer of things, a machine-engineer, a software-engineer...

 

However, you are most welcome to visit the "it writes, but it is not a fountain pen...." forum. Often questions come up about the workings and design of ballpoints, rollerballs etc.

 

D.ick

 

I am an Engineer (an EE from the U.S.). Here in Indonesia where I currently reside, my title is "Insinyur" (abbr: Ir.). An "Insinyur" is typically degreed. The similarity with the term "Ingenieur" (abbr: Ir. or Ing.) as you are called in the Netherlands, is likely because Indonesia was a Dutch colony for almost 200 years (c. 1603-1800). That said - I am not familiar with the etymology of the synonymous title "Ingineer"; but I have seen it used before.

 

Enjoy... David



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Posted 15 July 2016 - 11:00

 

I am an Engineer (an EE from the U.S.). Here in Indonesia where I currently reside, my title is "Insinyur" (abbr: Ir.). An "Insinyur" is typically degreed. The similarity with the term "Ingenieur" (abbr: Ir. or Ing.) as you are called in the Netherlands, is likely because Indonesia was a Dutch colony for almost 200 years (c. 1603-1800). That said - I am not familiar with the etymology of the synonymous title "Ingineer"; but I have seen it used before.

 

Enjoy... David

 

Actually, in dayly use we in the Netherlands would use the term ingenieur (without capital) also in the meaning of designer: The ingenieurs at Philips designed a new musicsystem, meaning the development department.

 

It's interesting how language shifts over the ages and geographically.

 

 

(Oh, BTW, as far as I know Indonesia has been a Dutch colony up to 1948.... Probably 148 yrs too long in the view of many Indonesians.. But let's stay away from any political discussions about things like that.)


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Posted 15 July 2016 - 12:03

 

Actually, in dayly use we in the Netherlands would use the term ingenieur (without capital) also in the meaning of designer: The ingenieurs at Philips designed a new musicsystem, meaning the development department.

 

It's interesting how language shifts over the ages and geographically.

 

(Oh, BTW, as far as I know Indonesia has been a Dutch colony up to 1948.... Probably 148 yrs too long in the view of many Indonesians.. But let's stay away from any political discussions about things like that.)

 

Whoops - you are (mostly) correct about the Dutch occupation. Sorry...

 

Excerpting:

 

Portuguese 1512–1850
Dutch East India Company 1602–1800
French and British interlude 1806–1815
Netherlands (Dutch) East Indies 1800–1942, 1945–1950

 

Ref: https://en.wikipedia...tch_East_Indies

 

Edit to add: What the time-line from Wikipedia doesn't expand upon is the gap during WWII (1942-1945). For that period Indonesia was occupied by the Japanese. Until his passing a few years ago :( , I knew an elderly Indonesian gentleman who could speak not only standard Bahasa-Indonesia and Javanese, but Dutch and Japanese as well :)

 

My apologies to O.P. for getting so off-topic.

 

Regards, David


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Posted 15 July 2016 - 20:22

Hi pen engineer,

I've enjoyed reading your "fountain pen magic" website, a real source of knowledge, thanks for shearing!

Surely look forward reading your new article on  the surface treatment of feeds !

Best regards from Flanders in Belgium ,

Francis

​PS  : I've also enjoyed some articles on your other sites, specially "being here" touched me.

I went to a similar experience a few years ago, when I also - suddenly - realized : I'm "getting old"

Looks you're not only a talented engineer, but also an excellent writer ! 



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Posted 18 July 2016 - 07:23

Hi pen engineer,

I've enjoyed reading your "fountain pen magic" website, a real source of knowledge, thanks for shearing!

Surely look forward reading your new article on  the surface treatment of feeds !

Best regards from Flanders in Belgium ,

Francis

​PS  : I've also enjoyed some articles on your other sites, specially "being here" touched me.

I went to a similar experience a few years ago, when I also - suddenly - realized : I'm "getting old"

Looks you're not only a talented engineer, but also an excellent writer ! 

thanks.... :blush:


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Posted 18 July 2016 - 07:30

 

I am an Engineer (an EE from the U.S.). Here in Indonesia where I currently reside, my title is "Insinyur" (abbr: Ir.). An "Insinyur" is typically degreed. The similarity with the term "Ingenieur" (abbr: Ir. or Ing.) as you are called in the Netherlands, is likely because Indonesia was a Dutch colony for almost 200 years (c. 1603-1800). That said - I am not familiar with the etymology of the synonymous title "Ingineer"; but I have seen it used before.

 

Enjoy... David

Hi David

 

When you click on the Ingeneer below my name, it should take you to my ingeneer's blog, where I write about the reasons why we should write engineer as ingeneer... somewhere in between there is meant to be a smile...


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Posted 26 July 2016 - 08:56

The chapter on Feeds made or Plastic has been published. 

 

I trust you will find it interesting and enjoyable

 

https://fountainpend...ade-of-plastic/


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Posted 26 July 2016 - 18:28

The chapter on Feeds made or Plastic has been published. 

 

I trust you will find it interesting and enjoyable

 

https://fountainpend...ade-of-plastic/

 
 
You really had to drink the chalice to the last drop before you could enjoy the excellent results, congratulations!
Excellent revelatory contribution which I certainly will re-read several times to get all aspects.
Your perseverance is truly inspiring, thank you for shearing !
I am already eagerly awaiting your next article on feed design….
Francis






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