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Jinhao & Baoer Dry-Out (Troubleshooting)

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#1 dvalliere

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Posted 24 March 2016 - 16:22

I've purchased a number of Jinhao pens (and a few Baoers) in recent months via eBay.  I like the way they write (with one or two exceptions) but they seem to dry out very quickly.  (My Parker 51, TWSBI Mini, and Pilot Varsities can go a long time without use and start right up.  I haven't even found how long is too long!)

 

Generally, re: my Jinhao's and Baoers:

  • If not used for a day or two, they'll start hard.
  • If not used for 2 or 3 days, they'll need priming (twisting the convertor or running the nib under water)
  • They seem to do a little better when stored horizontally rather than vertically.
  • No, it's not an issue of the ink "sticking" to the rear of the converter because I've gotten into the habit of shaking them downward before use.
  • I don't think it's a broken inner lid--they still have a satisfying snap when opening and closing.  I also opened one to verify and the inner cap was fine.

 

So, is this merely the reality of cheap pens not sealing particularly well?  I've seen some folks talking about the converters being (partly?) to blame.  Can y'all advise and help me improve this issue?

 

Thanks!

Dylan

 

Postscript: I'm using Jinhao x450s, x750s, 159, and Baoer 801, 508.



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Posted 24 March 2016 - 16:30

Wash the converter and nib with water and detergent when you first get the pen and you shouldn't have any problems. The problems you're experiencing are caused by oily leftovers from the factory.


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Posted 24 March 2016 - 16:51

This topic comes up periodically. Attached below is a discussion from 2012. Some people have had luck with the following:

- blow into the cap to determine resistance. This can locate where air is leaking in, providing the opportunity to stop that gap with wax.

- switch inks.

- keep fewer pens inked.

- buy different pens that focus on ink condition, such as the spring-loaded inner cap of some Platinum pens.

- remember that breather holes in a cap serve a purpose, and not all air entry points are bad.

 

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Posted 24 March 2016 - 16:53

Wash the converter and nib with water and detergent when you first get the pen and you shouldn't have any problems. The problems you're experiencing are caused by oily leftovers from the factory.

 

I have thoroughly cleaned each and every pen before first use with water and dish soap.  Nib, feed, converter.  And thoroughly rinsed.  I do not believe this to be the problem in this instance.

 

This topic comes up periodically. Attached below is a discussion from 2012. Some people have had luck with the following:

- blow into the cap to determine resistance. This can locate where air is leaking in, providing the opportunity to stop that gap with wax.

- switch inks.

- keep fewer pens inked.

- buy different pens that focus on ink condition, such as the spring-loaded inner cap of some Platinum pens.

- remember that breather holes in a cap serve a purpose, and not all air entry points are bad.

 

http://www.fountainp...ens-drying-out/

Thank you.  I've tried to find past information on this but did not stumble upon the right stuff.  I'll study up on your link.



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Posted 24 March 2016 - 21:09

I have a few Baoer 388s, and have this problem.
In some cases, I think hard starting is very much related to the ink, where some inks seems to dry out the feed more so that others.
In my case, Noodler's Liberty's Elysium will dry out when the pen is left nib up. But when I lay the pen flat, it does not dry out. I think in this case, the LE is draining back out of the feed into the converter when stored nib up.
The same pen with Waterman blue, takes much longer before the nib/feed dries up, stored nib up.
I have another Baoer 388 with Noodler's Lexington Grey, and it works just fine when stored nib up.

And just so you know that I am not picking on Noodler's ink, I have the same problem with Diamine Sherwood Green in my Lamy joy. It will hard start when stored nib up, but works just find stored flat.

Also if the pen is marginally dry, it seems to dry out faster than a wet pen, resulting in hard starts.

So for certain inks, you just have to bite the bullet and store the pen flat.

The other thing to look at is the tip. You will need a loupe and some micromesh or a buffing stick for this. What you are looking for is a baby bottom profile. This has been the cause of several of my hard starting pens, which would sometimes hard start, during the day after a long pause of writing. Once I polished the tip to remove/reduce the baby bottom, the pens wrote just fine. But you need to be VERY CAREFUL when polishing the tip, as you could ruin the tip, if you are not careful.

Edited by ac12, 24 March 2016 - 21:10.

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