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#61 marcelo

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Posted 27 April 2016 - 18:58

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#62 Flounder

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Posted 27 April 2016 - 19:21

It is known that the lining of boxes, glue, and the chemicals used to cure leather give off fumes that may damage pens.

 

 

In case I have a bash at making a pen box, what linings and glues should be avoided, RMN?


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#63 RMN

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Posted 27 April 2016 - 21:23

 

In case I have a bash at making a pen box, what linings and glues should be avoided, RMN?

 

Can't help you with the technical part of that. I remember a report about a pen being stored in a box with a synthetic liner, and it warped the barrel.

 

Also some of the chemicals in curing and tanning leather can be harmful. Actually that leather preparing process is complex. Have a look at wikipedia for the details.

 

One should even be careful not to store ebonite and celluloid together for a long time. Or at least have good ventilation.

 

 

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Posted 27 April 2016 - 22:56

Hi!
 
I think you all who took part and helped will enjoy reading this:
 
http://www.fountainp...l-tell-you-why/
 
 
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#65 Force

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Posted 28 April 2016 - 03:18

Very good news indeed. Thank you for updating us on your success.



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Posted 28 April 2016 - 17:54

 

In case I have a bash at making a pen box, what linings and glues should be avoided, RMN?

Dang... there was a thread in the Italian forum, I think, about a vinyl inner box lining degrading and leaving a fabric imprint on the barrel of something very nice and rather expensive.  You can see why I haven't tried to run a search, with that degree of precise and accurate criteria to enter.

 

Edit:  also, I shouted hooray on the results thread already, but why not twice?  Hooray!


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Posted 28 April 2016 - 18:57

That's good to hear. I'm unlikely to line with vinyl, but if there's a particular glue to beshrew that's taboo in your view, I'll eschew.


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Posted 28 April 2016 - 19:29

It was an Omas in its original Omas box, when Omas briefly changed their packaging.

As is common practice, the owner kept the pen unused in the original box only to find the pen body marred by contact with the original Omas box material.

To their credit, Omas did rectify the situation with pen owner.

 

Again I'm never going to claim expertise. There are others here who rightly can advise.

In my study, I do see direct results of incorrect storage. Pulling objects for a program delivered last night I found three of my own non-pen objects suffering plastics degradation, (last inspection 6ish months ago). One metal part completely rusted. Metal too nearby celluloid that became unstable. These were shared with the audience with suggestions for airy, dry, dark environment, by material. For my objects in airy dry natural materials, such as baskets, or mylar, and polypropylene - two materials used in acid-free archival storage.  (see: museum conservation practices, online)

 

Pens often have The plastics + metal that's problematic. Enclosing These, and in contact with the wrong material is the issue. So know your pen's material, and store safely for those materials.



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Posted 17 May 2016 - 17:33

I have similar problems with the clip but I'm not 100% sure if it is rust. I have the Black Sea model with the golden finish. 


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Posted 17 May 2016 - 17:45

I have similar problems with the clip but I'm not 100% sure if it is rust. I have the Black Sea model with the golden finish. 

It may be tarnish to the gold plate. Try a metal polish. The clip base is brass which cannot rust...it can though corrode.



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Posted 28 July 2016 - 19:45

Hi Marcelo -- Could it be that this is a counterfeit pen? Perhaps a defective pen picked up on the gray market? Where did it come from? Just a thought.



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Posted 29 July 2016 - 00:41

Are there kknown counterfeit Carenes?


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Posted 29 July 2016 - 01:57

Not that I am aware of. I would think too much work to produce an almost identical fake.







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