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Waterman Carene?

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#21 PAKMAN

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Posted 04 March 2016 - 19:20

I like my Carene, it is a beautiful pen, a little heavy and the medium nib a bit wide and very stiff. Pilot nibs are wonderful in my estimation. I don't post my Carene so don't care if it will or won't. I'm not sure how well the lacquer finish will hold up to long term posting.


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Posted 04 March 2016 - 19:49

 

Here's another idea for the Phileas.  The 18K L'etalon nib fits into a Phileas perfectly.  I was able to find an extra fine L'etalon nib for one of my Phileas pens, and that really adds something.  The extra fine nib did cost about $70 shipped. 

 

This is great.  I like the Phileas, I only wish it could write a little crisper.  Could you share with us where can we look for the EF L'etalon nib please?

 

Please bear with me, I could not resist editing my previous post, by updating the 2nd photo with a new one to include the word "Phileas" ...


Edited by Frank66, 04 March 2016 - 20:33.

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Posted 04 March 2016 - 20:21

I like my Carene, it is a beautiful pen, a little heavy and the medium nib a bit wide and very stiff. Pilot nibs are wonderful in my estimation. I don't post my Carene so don't care if it will or won't. I'm not sure how well the lacquer finish will hold up to long term posting.

 

How is the flow on your Carene? Mine was rather dry. I agree the nib is smooth but very stiff. BTW, I saw a video review once where the reviewer described the Carene nib as soft with some line variation.


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Posted 04 March 2016 - 21:02

My Carene has a good weight, I would never call it heavy (Black Sea with gold trim model). The nib is a little drier than what one would expect, depending on the ink. I use Waterman Serenity Blue and it is just fine with a hair on the dry side. I bought it from Zafeiriou in a fine nib which is true to size. Mine posts, it does so well. I am very, very pleased with this pen. What I really like about it is the way that the nib is an extension of the section of the pen. The nib is almost fully visible as it has a very small base from what I gathered and it is somehow glued to the section because of it. This gives you total visibility of what you write. As for flex, I would not even test it because: 1) I read that the nib is glued to the section 2) The base of the nib is small. Also, I find the air-incorporation system stunning, as it performs really well. What I did to test it is I filled the pen and after writing and writing unscrew the section. Tiny little bubbles could be seen inside the converter. It is also worth to be noted that even though the capacity of the converter might sound nothing spectacular, but it does last a lot. I believe that this happens because of the dryness of the nib. The term "dryness" is not necessarily something bad, as the ink dries quickly and there is no chance of dragged ink. What I also tested is the "horn leak". I had seen users saying that if you hold the pen down to the horns of the nib, you are prone to getting inky fingers. I find that this is not true, as I had to hold the pen way down to the end of the horns to get ink on my fingers. Posting the pen is possible (even though it fits in my hand un-posted), although it is too back-heavy for my taste. What I could not understand however is the 2 rubber rings at the threads. I suppose it is for sealing purposes.

 

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I saw an auction on E-bay for 42 euros on the Chinese pattern model in fine, but due to the Capital Control I was afraid to bid.

For those who want the pen for a cheaper price. Auctions for the Carene can be found.

 

Zafeiriou: Waterman Carene Vivid blue -51% + ink, 120 eu.

Zafeiriou: Waterman Carene Island Sand, 120 eu.

No affiliation with that store. However, a Carene for 120 sounds like a good deal if you like the color and trim.


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Posted 11 March 2016 - 20:50

 

This is great.  I like the Phileas, I only wish it could write a little crisper.  Could you share with us where can we look for the EF L'etalon nib please?

 

Please bear with me, I could not resist editing my previous post, by updating the 2nd photo with a new one to include the word "Phileas" ...

Dutchpen in the FPN parts classifieds was my source for the L'etalon nib.


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Posted 11 March 2016 - 21:08

Dutchpen in the FPN parts classifieds was my source for the L'etalon nib.

Pajaro, thanks for your reply, I will definitely look into that.  While at it, any idea where I could get a reliable Reform 1745 EF nib?  Regards, Photios


Edited by Frank66, 11 March 2016 - 21:38.

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Posted 16 March 2016 - 23:51

Pajaro, thanks for your reply, I will definitely look into that.  While at it, any idea where I could get a reliable Reform 1745 EF nib?  Regards, Photios

 

I'm not sure where you can get a Reform 1745 nib, but you might try Dutchpen.  I replaced the nib in a Reform 1745 with a 14K Waterman No. 2 nib.


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Posted 17 March 2016 - 09:37

 

I'm not sure where you can get a Reform 1745 nib, but you might try Dutchpen.  I replaced the nib in a Reform 1745 with a 14K Waterman No. 2 nib.

 

Good to see I am not the only one fond of nib replacements.  Thanks for your recommendation, Warm regards, Photios


Edited by Frank66, 17 March 2016 - 09:37.

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