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#121 DasKaltblut

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Posted 07 December 2017 - 00:28

The thought of officially issued German ballpoints just makes me crack up. Everything in order! :)

I've never had anyone try to take a pen out of my hand, but every time I've proffered my FP to someone they've refused, saying they can't write with a FP.

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#122 DasKaltblut

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Posted 07 December 2017 - 00:28

Double post, sorry!

Edited by DasKaltblut, 07 December 2017 - 00:31.


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Posted 07 December 2017 - 11:50

@ Das Kaltblut:

 

I did not mean "state approved" or "government issue" ballpoints in my post!

It's just so that we are provided with document proof ballpoints from the office.

I am a civil servant, otherwise I might have said "my company" or "my boss".

English is not my native language, so maybe I chose the wrong words.

The only "official" about these pens is the ISO-standard for document-proof pens.

 

Since almost all ballpoints available are ISO-standard,

the pens they give us are as cheap as possible (as can be expected from Government),

so most of us prefer commercial gift ballpoints that probably have the same refill mine in it,

but look and feel much better when writing.

Some even use private pens that they actually paid for! :yikes:



#124 DasKaltblut

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Posted 09 December 2017 - 04:06

@ Das Kaltblut:
 
I did not mean "state approved" or "government issue" ballpoints in my post!
It's just so that we are provided with document proof ballpoints from the office.
I am a civil servant, otherwise I might have said "my company" or "my boss".
English is not my native language, so maybe I chose the wrong words.


You didn't chose the wrong words, I understood that you meant - pens issued by the entity that you work for, so that they will all meet a standard. I get it. I once worked for a company that took inventory of the number of paper clips that you used, and you were issued only a certain number per year. :D

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Posted 09 December 2017 - 08:43

Offtopic:

@ Das Kaltblut:

 

I did not mean "state approved" or "government issue" ballpoints in my post!

It's just so that we are provided with document proof ballpoints from the office.

I am a civil servant, otherwise I might have said "my company" or "my boss".

English is not my native language, so maybe I chose the wrong words.

The only "official" about these pens is the ISO-standard for document-proof pens.

 

Since almost all ballpoints available are ISO-standard,

the pens they give us are as cheap as possible (as can be expected from Government),

so most of us prefer commercial gift ballpoints that probably have the same refill mine in it,

but look and feel much better when writing.

Some even use private pens that they actually paid for! :yikes:

(Font size edit is mine)

 

Ehm. That isn't quite true. "Most" (pulled that from my hat) ballpoint refills conform to ISO 12757-1, which is the dimensions and shape part (for example what is known as "Parker G2"). ISO 12757-2 is the archival part, and quite many refills do not officially conform to it. However many of the usual ballpoint pens sold for office use are archival quality (for example Bic Cristal, and some of Lyreco pens). If you lurk around here, mostly the inks subforum, you'll find many opinions that most ballpoint pens are not archival quality. Your mileage will vary...


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#126 KellyMcJ

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Posted 09 December 2017 - 13:12

Offtopic:
(Font size edit is mine)
 
Ehm. That isn't quite true. "Most" (pulled that from my hat) ballpoint refills conform to ISO 12757-1, which is the dimensions and shape part (for example what is known as "Parker G2"). ISO 12757-2 is the archival part, and quite many refills do not officially conform to it. However many of the usual ballpoint pens sold for office use are archival quality (for example Bic Cristal, and some of Lyreco pens). If you lurk around here, mostly the inks subforum, you'll find many opinions that most ballpoint pens are not archival quality. Your mileage will vary...


People are under the impression that ballpoints are indelible. Since they vanish with contact with alcohol I BEG to differ. They are however waterproof.

Archival is something else and I really don't know the answer to that one.






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