Looking For A Water Resistant Dark Red Ink.

[JeanManuel]

Dear all,

 

I am looking for a water resistant, dark red ink.

At the moment I am using Diamine Oxblood.

I am content with mere water resistance.

As secondary preferences I would like the ink to be available in Europe, and to be "wet"/to give a generous flow.

Thank you! JM

 

edit/P.S.:
It can also be a mix of compatible inks.
I have been considering mixing Rohrer und Klingner morinda,scabiosa, and Leipziger schwarz.

Edited January 21, 2016 by JeanManuel

[sciumbasci]

Mixing an IG with a non IG isn't a big no-no?

[JeanManuel]

Mixing an IG with a non IG isn't a big no-no?

I cannot find it again at this moment, but I remember reading in Rohrer & Klingner's product information, that their FP inks could be mixed, except for Sepia.

[proton007]

KWZI has some.

[BayesianPrior]

Sailor Oku-Yama is a very similar colour to Oxblood with IMHO better properties including water resistance.

[fabri00]

Mont Blanc bordeaux has some water tolerance.

It is available everywhere.

[JeanManuel]

Thanks. I took a look at reviews and the website of KWZI.

These inks are on the Bordeaux side, i.e. with a colder, more purple tone, which does not suit me.

[Buzz_130]

KWZ Inks IG Red does an excellent job. For an IG ink, IG Red is not exceptionally dry. It works fairly well in my pens.

 

Buzz

[stonezebra]

Have you looked in the Inky Recipes topic? (down near the bottom of this forum) Since you're willing to mix your own ink you might find just what you're looking for there and possibly use inks you already have.

[JeanManuel]

KWZ Inks IG Red does an excellent job. For an IG ink, IG Red is not exceptionally dry. It works fairly well in my pens.

 

Buzz

Thanks, that is good to know!

Could you post a picture of your KWZ IG red ink? (I did not find a review)

 

Have you looked in the Inky Recipes topic?

Indeed, if I do not find something ready-made, I should try to browse there next. Thanks for your suggestion.

Edited January 24, 2016 by JeanManuel

[JeanManuel]

Mixing an IG with a non IG isn't a big no-no?

 

I cannot find it again at this moment, but I remember reading in Rohrer & Klingner's product information, that their FP inks could be mixed, except for Sepia.

Rohrer & Klingner kindly confirmed by email, less than two hours after my inquiry!!!

 

"all Writing Inks are miscible. Only blends with Sepia should be used immediately and not stay in fountain pen after use."

 

[Hospitalier]

Good to know about the R&K inks!

 

I like red ink also JM; I use a lot of Platinum's Rose Red Pigment in my mixes, it isn't at all dark but I have discovered that it always survives the water test quite resolutely.

 

Perhaps you might like to try my latest recipe: https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/303117-ldv-red-chalk-after-montblanc

If you like it, I suggest you visit http://www.thewritingdesk.co.uk/showproduct.php?brand=Organics+Studio&range=Elements&cat=ink&subr= soon because I have been led to believe the Organics Studio inks are currently not in production.

Edited January 25, 2016 by Hospitalier

[miwishi63]

Noodler's Red-Black is a decent option IMHO.

[Miz Black Crow]

Noodler's Red-Black is a decent option IMHO.

It is! I love this ink. However, I believe it can be problematic to acquire outside the US. (Though this was listed as a "secondary" preference...?)

[JeanManuel]

Thanks, Right_to_Write and Miz Black Crow. Indeed I would consider Noodler's inks if I lived in the US. They seem to have nice reds.

Hospitalier, I am really enthousiastic about your cultural approach, trying to reproduce Da Vinci's ink color. On the particular picture you use as model, the old ink is very close to my "brick red" ideal (html code #730A00).

I asked KWZ inks about their red IG inks and prices. They were exceptionally fast and helpful. Since their prices (incl. postage) are competitive from where I live, I am ordering a 60ml bottle of IG red #3 and will post a review.

This will be my fourth iron gall ink, after Montblanc Blue Black, Montblanc Midnight Blue Permanent, and Rohrer & Klingner Scabiosa.

Edit / PS:

Of course more suggestions are always welcome!

Edited January 26, 2016 by JeanManuel

[JeanManuel]

So, yesterday I received my bottle of KWZ ink IG red #3 , along with a little hand-written note of good wishes from its creator.

Once the colour has settled, this ink is more Bordeaux (i.e. colder, more blue) than Diamine Oxblood which is more Burgundy (i.e. warmer, more yellow).

 

The waterproof IG red #3 flows very well. It starts lighter, then becomes darker than Oxblood, which is excellent for finer nibs. It behaves better versus water. So it solves my problem.

By the time I finish this 60ml bottle, if KWZ ink has developed a warmer-coloured, permanent dark red ink, I will probably switch. For now, this is already excellent.

Here is a little picture.

http://orig14.deviantart.net/53a5/f/2016/034/6/8/inks_test__by_jomathephysicist-d9qd28i.jpg

Edited February 3, 2016 by JeanManuel

[amberleadavis]

Thank you for sharing!

[Miz Black Crow]

I'm seriously going to have to invest in some KWZI, too many of their inks are just too amazing to let pass by.

[JeanManuel]

I'm seriously going to have to invest in some KWZI, too many of their inks are just too amazing to let pass by.

Yes, I hope that KWZ ink prospers.

 

I should thank everybody for their suggestions, and in particular Proton007 and Buzz_130 for pointing me towards this ink.

[inkstainedruth]

I'm seriously going to have to invest in some KWZI, too many of their inks are just too amazing to let pass by.

 

Oh, you absolutely must. I think I have nearly as many of them as Diamine inks at this point, and can particularly recommend IG Blue #3, IG Violet #3, IG Blue-Black, and IG Mandarin; if you like darker greens IG Green #3 is nice (I haven't had a chance to try IG Green #2 yet).

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth