Need Id! :)

[GCS93]

Hey guys,

 

I was talking about pens with my family and my grand aunt took a box out with a few old pens in it.

 

I found this Waterman in there, body condition isn't that great anymore, looks like it spent some time standing in the (sun?)-light for quite some time. - Hard rubber? Smells slightly rubbery..

The nib however is in excellent condition and writes smoothly dipped.

 

It, however, does not have any trace of a number anywhere.

 

Nib is a #2A [Waterman England]

imprint reads as follows:

 

____Waterman's

made in IDEAL ENGLAND

____FOUNTAIN PEN

 

What struck me as funny is that the lever won't align with the clip, or with the nib (though that can be explained).

 

Anyways, here are a few pics:

 

http://orig02.deviantart.net/5b19/f/2015/330/1/a/untitled_5_by_topsy93-d9i46kd.jpg

 

http://orig08.deviantart.net/090d/f/2015/330/2/f/untitled_4_by_topsy93-d9i46kk.jpg

 

http://orig13.deviantart.net/28dd/f/2015/330/e/4/untitled_1_by_topsy93-d9i46lf.jpg

 

http://orig08.deviantart.net/cdfb/f/2015/330/6/c/untitled_3_by_topsy93-d9i46kp.jpg

 

http://img00.deviantart.net/c482/i/2015/330/a/d/untitled_2_by_topsy93-d9i46l4.jpg

 

http://orig13.deviantart.net/d66a/f/2015/330/1/c/img_20151126_220838_by_topsy93-d9i47ed.jpg

 

 

Thanks!

 

 

Also, if someone could guess the period that'd be ace! When I'm at it I might just try to find out whom it belonged to..

Edited November 26, 2015 by GCS93

[Ernst Bitterman]

Probably a No.3, but with usual hesitations about Waterman IDs in general and UK production even moreso. 1935, about; possibly a little earlier or a good deal later.

Edited November 26, 2015 by Ernst Bitterman

[GCS93]

Thanks!

 

What was different with UK productions?

Just that they 'conveniently' didn't stamp the bottom with the model number?

 

Period seems right I suppose, I wonder if I can actually find a receipt somewhere.. Not sure my greatgrandmother would have had this one together with her 92. Must be a pen around somewhere from before too..!

 

 

Also, is it 100% soakable material? I'm kinda itching to get a new sac in it..

 

Edit; Just stumbled upon one on ebay claiming to be celluloid, however, this looks more like hard rubber oxidation, doesn't it? (especially on the cap)

Just seeking confirmation...

Edited November 27, 2015 by GCS93

[Left FPN]

Google Waterman 32

[gregamckinney]

Not soakable material, as it does look like HR.

 

greg

[GCS93]

True, had a small lapse of concentration..

 

 

Thanks guys!

 

 

Well, I've tried opening it but it really wants to be my second pen that wants to stay a dip pen because the section won't budge.

I'd trust it if I'd have to hang from a window on it!

[Left FPN]

Very gentle heat with hair dryer. Use a pair of rubber gloves to grip and twist.

[GCS93]

Tried that, won't move at all.. I'll try again on Sunday or so and let you guys know it I managed

[Christopher Godfrey]

<What struck me as funny is that the lever won't align with the clip, or with the nib...>

 

GCS93: why should these components all align? I've not been aware of that previously -- ever. I have always believed it to be completely random -- where they lie in relation to each other...

[GCS93]

I had assumed that they usually align since they do on all other pens I have so I assumes they would normally..

But after looking at more Watermans I see that this isn't the case at all!

Edited December 1, 2015 by GCS93

[Left FPN]

I had assumed that they usually align since they do on all other pens I have so I assumes they would normally..

But after looking at more Watermans I see that this isn't the case at all!

On many of the older pens, with threaded caps, the thread is two or three start so you have that many options to get them close.