Waterman Stub Nibs - Carene Vs Exception N&d

[DanceOfLight]

Hi Folks,

 

Just wanted to share with you two images that I made as part of the Waterman Exception Night & Day review . Hopefully this will help someone who is looking for a visual comparison.

 

 

 

 

 

 

If this is considered cross-posting, I duly apologise.

-DanceOfLight

 

[gregamckinney]

Hold on a sec! What can you tell us about that M1000 nib?

Regards, greg

[DanceOfLight]

Anything you want to know Greg . In fact I was thinking of writing my experience in obtaining the "S" Nib. All I can say is, it was an EXPERIENCE ! Awesome people at Pelikan Germany. Of course this might not be the right forum to talk about it though ;-) .

 

-DOL

[gregamckinney]

Anything you want to know Greg . In fact I was thinking of writing my experience in obtaining the "S" Nib. All I can say is, it was an EXPERIENCE ! Awesome people at Pelikan Germany. Of course this might not be the right forum to talk about it though ;-) .

 

-DOL

 

Was this an official Pelikan service?

This?: http://www.pelikan.com/pulse/Pulsar/en_US.CMS.displayCMS.197797./make-a-wish-nib

 

greg

Edited November 25, 2015 by gregamckinney

[DanceOfLight]

yup I made that pilgrimage !

[gregamckinney]

Super cool. I'd definitely like to hear about it if you end up writing it up.

greg

[RMN]

@DOL

 

What grind did you get for this S nib?

 

 

D.ick

[DanceOfLight]

Super cool. I'd definitely like to hear about it if you end up writing it up.

greg

I'll try my best to write a short paragraph

 

@DOL

 

What grind did you get for this S nib?

 

 

D.ick

A cursive italic with a hint of tooth :-)

[RMN]

I'll try my best to write a short paragraph

 

 

A cursive italic with a hint of tooth :-)

 

Looks like that is one looooong tooth. What a monster nib. And seems to be a medium sized italic, then? I love those. I have 2 factory italics by Pelikan, one on my 800, and that is really too broad for comfort for normal writing. Bought a spare medium for it...

 

But to go back to topic: Love my Waterman stubs.

 

D.ick

[DanceOfLight]

Looks like that is one looooong tooth. What a monster nib. And seems to be a medium sized italic, then? I love those. I have 2 factory italics by Pelikan, one on my 800, and that is really too broad for comfort for normal writing. Bought a spare medium for it...

 

But to go back to topic: Love my Waterman stubs.

 

D.ick

The local squirrels are jealous , and you are right it is medium to wide italic. They destroyed a few to get this right...

 

It is a pity that Pelikan has reduced the variety of nibs that they offer with a new pen. If I may ask, when was it that you bought the italic nibs ?

 

Stubs on waterman are indeed very pleasant to use, especially Carené , with the right ink, it's magic.

[Bemo]

I'd love to get a stub for my Carene. Was that a factory stub? I'd prefer not to buy a whole new pen just to get a stub. My Carene is a F point and not really appropriate for stubbing.

[RMN]

Waterman have a factory stub. It's a broad stub.

 

You can buy separate sections for your Carene.

If your Carene is fairly new, Waterman can even do a nibswap for you.

 

 

D.ick

[Left FPN]

Obtaining a Carene Stub:

 

Here in the UK all in-stock Carene's are fitted with Medium nibs. Some online retailers offer to change it out for another size at no cost.

 

As stated by D.ick Waterman will swap it but you have to send them the complete pen and they assess is before swapping.

 

Most, if not all, Carene's I have monitored on the bay have either M, F or EF nibs fitted, it is very rare to see a Stub. That can also be said for single sections advertised for sale or auction.

 

You can buy new sections from a couple of well known online retailers but the minimum price I have seen is £77 and the max close on £100 which is rather steep. This is expensive when comparing it to buying a complete pen during Amazon's OFFER period for £80 and then posting it to Waterman at the cost of around £5 to have them change out the section. Here you get a complete pen for little more. Amazon even have some at £65 at the moment making a possible change much cheaper.

 

All this aside, I am not a great fan of the Stub, but much prefer a nice smooth M or F.

 

 

Edited December 2, 2015 by Force

[DanceOfLight]

I'd love to get a stub for my Carene. Was that a factory stub? I'd prefer not to buy a whole new pen just to get a stub. My Carene is a F point and not really appropriate for stubbing.

 

 

Waterman have a factory stub. It's a broad stub.

 

You can buy separate sections for your Carene.

If your Carene is fairly new, Waterman can even do a nibswap for you.

 

 

D.ick

 

Hi Bemo,

 

D.ick is right. In fact the good folks at Waterman did a nib swap for my 4 year old Sonnet! I've written about it here : https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/292563-customer-support-and-after-sales-service-the-way-it-should-be/

 

I have interacted with them several times and the support team are superb ! I have no affiliations, just my experience.

 

-DOL

[DanceOfLight]

Obtaining a Carene Stub:

 

Here in the UK all in-stock Carene's are fitted with Medium nibs. Some online retailers offer to change it out for another size at no cost.

 

As stated by D.ick Waterman will swap it but you have to send them the complete pen and they assess is before swapping.

 

Most, if not all, Carene's I have monitored on the bay have either M, F or EF nibs fitted, it is very rare to see a Stub. That can also be said for single sections advertised for sale or auction.

 

You can buy new sections from a couple of well known online retailers but the minimum price I have seen is £77 and the max close on £100 which is rather steep. This is expensive when comparing it to buying a complete pen during Amazon's OFFER period for £80 and then posting it to Waterman at the cost of around £5 to have them change out the section. Here you get a complete pen for little more. Amazon even have some at £65 at the moment making a possible change much cheaper.

 

All this aside, I am not a great fan of the Stub, but much prefer a nice smooth M or F.

 

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If your intention was to make us all (at least me) jealous, you achieved it! what a beautiful set you have there!

[RMN]

 

 

 

Hi Bemo,

 

D.ick is right. In fact the good folks at Waterman did a nib swap for my 4 year old Sonnet! I've written about it here : https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/292563-customer-support-and-after-sales-service-the-way-it-should-be/

 

I have interacted with them several times and the support team are superb ! I have no affiliations, just my experience.

 

-DOL

 

Waterman ---- Sonnet? Wasn't that Parker?

I'm teasing you a bit, in the end it all goes to Sanford, which is Waterman and Parker together. (with some other brands thrown in)

 

 

And as Force says: they will assess the nib. If it looks pristine and the can use it again they will swap, but if it shows distinctive signs of use they might not.

In my case, I let my B&M-shop handle both of them. Last time he called Sanford importer, asked them to send the stub, received it 2 days later, exchanged the nibs and send the M-nib back to Sanford. Neat. That was about 3 yrs ago.

 

 

D.ick

Edited December 2, 2015 by RMN
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[DanceOfLight]

 

Waterman ---- Sonnet? Wasn't that Parker?

I'm teasing you a bit, in the end it all goes to Sanford, which is Waterman and Parker together. (with some other brands thrown in)

 

 

And as Force says: they will asses the nib. If it looks pristine and the can use it again they will swap, but if it shows distinctive signs of use they might not.

In my case, I let my B&M-shop handle both of them. Last time he called Sanford importer, asked them to send the stub, received it 2 days later, exchanged the nibs and send the M-nib back to Sanford. Neat. That was about 3 yrs ago.

 

 

D.ick

 

LOL, you are right D.ick. I meant Newellco which owns both Parker and Waterman brands; somehow in my mind, they both merged ; I'll blame that on age or/and the single malt ... *hick*

Edited December 2, 2015 by DanceOfLight